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All right, flame throwers at the ready.... Like any stereotypes, the male/female - closed/open thing has roots in the truth. But like any stereotype, it has the potential to do harm, and it ignores the fact that there are many that do not fit the stereotype. There, I've said it. I feel better. Mark Williams Colton High School Library <mwillia@cello.gina.calstate.edu> "Too bad life isn't a holodeck experience."