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Well, this has certainly been interesting. One point that has been lacking in this rather judgmental thread is simply that each librarian's circumstances and situation are different. I was hired to be the librarian at a small private school two days before school started this year. The library was in complete disarray because a wall had been taken out and moved to add space for another classroom, and books and fixtures had been put back any which way. I have no desk, and very little storage space. There were almost no supplies; this school hasn't had a "real" librarian in years. They gave me a week with no classes, although I've been happy to let kids check out books. Was this asking too much? Hardly. I have a friend who, for the last two summers, hasn't been able to get into her library. Two summers ago, they were getting rid of asbestos. Last summer they decided to take part of the library to house the new air-conditioning units. She got in the week before school opened, only to face shelves all over the place, and workmen still working. In many schools, the library is used for other things during the summer, such as daycare. In some of these schools (we have a big school system here, I'm not talking about one or two), the librarian may take 25 to 30 classes a week. How much "free" time does this leave her/him? Yes, we ARE teachers....but instead of a classroom of 24-28 children, we are responsible for several hundred children of various ages. We are also responsible for working with the teachers...who are not always interested in working with us on the curriculum during the summer. The class list thing can also be a major headache. Whoever so blithely said, the counselor should have those, hasn't worked in a large system where children are bussed every which way. At my children's school, after 2 weeks, class makeup is still changing to try to keep up with new students and the racial guidelines. I agree that in the best of all possible worlds we should be as ready for that first class as a classroom teacher. Perhaps when the library is treated as our classroom, and not simply as usable or disposable space, and when profound changes aren't dumped on us the first day of school ("oh, by the way, you'll be taking the three pre-school classes twice a week from now on") we will be. In the meantime, my guess is that we are all doing the best we can with the resources available to us, and deserve support from each other, not self-righteousness. Wendy Stoll