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Hi Betty I think alot of it is just plain genetics as I said. It runs in my family BUT I think I have made the tendency worse by (1) painting large murals(80 feet), (2) knitting or painting or computing for hours without a break. BUT then why would my big toe joint ache too?? Haven't taken up foot painting or non stop cross country driving!:-) Toes are not as bad as fingers and arms though!! Margaret Hunt Soon to be gradiate of USC-CLIS-Hurrah!! mchunt@mindspring.com Floyd Graham Elementary Hephzibah, GA(15 mi. S of Augusta) The home of 418 PreK-2 Panthers "So much little time and so much to do!"_Willy Wonka(?)