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Additional Information: (from Pat Wallace denwall@aol.com) The person who sent me the account of Caroline Spencer's Gag Order was Laurel L Indalecio <laindale@leahi.kcc.hawaii.edu > At the time of the order, she was employed in the Hawaii Public Library System (Children's Librarian at the Waikiki-Kapahulu Public Library). She recently lost that position due to budget cuts. She just sent me this information: -------------------------------------------------------- I have the e-mail addresses for Bart Kane and Caroline Spencer. I do not know whether they read it or not. According to some other librarians, they kinda doubt it. Maybe if they had subscribed to different listservs they may have avoided the mess we are in now. Here it is: Bart Kane stlib@netra.lib.state.hawaii.us Caroline Spencer car@netra.lib.state.hawaii.us If I know that someone is trying to send them something, I can make a phone call suggesting that they check their e-mail. Thanks to ALL of you in advance and for the support. Laurel Indalecio Unemployed Children's Librarian (Layed off due to budget cuts) laindale@leahi.kcc.hawaii.edu Laurel also said: The pine mail that the Hawaii State Librarians use has gone down. I don't know what the reason is. I received severalmessages regarding the Hawaii situation before the e-mail service went down. Your letters supporting the Hawaii Librarians are wonderful, we need your support so much. *************************************************