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From Pat Wallace (DENWALL@aol.com): > Early this month (9/2/96) I posted a query titled MULTICULTURAL COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT expressing my concern over what appeared to be a growing dependency on vendors and lack of interest in supplementing mainstream review & selection sources with" alternative press" sources............... >On 9/20 I posted this message: Let me call your attention to the June '96 issue of School Library Journal "News" on pp 10-11: "Hawaii Hands Collection Development to Baker and Tayler"..... >On 9/25 I posted HIT #1 with replies from librarians in Hawaii. This is HIT #2. Focus is on the need for better training in collection development and on issues of conflict of interest and inherent limitations involved in handing book selection over to jobbers. ************************************************ POST #6: John Buschman--BUSCHMAN@genius.rider.edu Rider University Library To: PLGNET-L@cornell.edu (progressive/alternative library community)/ Fri, Sep 20, 1996 >I smell the same rat in the Hawaii situation as I have in info tech. issues: library leadership (administrators & lib. school profs.) get publicity, a little money thrown at them, & professional rewards when they latch on to the "next wave" & adapt it to libraries. On info. tech. issues, they've long been willing to sell out the profession and the collections with fuzzy Alvin Toffleresque mumbo jumbo. Now, they're aping GM and software producers with outsourcing - in cataloging and now collection development. >The problem is, these are the same folks who structure the rewards for librarians in the field. To challenge them is to risk one's grade, job assignment, or job security. Those of us in a position to do so need to continue to speak out. SLJ's pallid little news blurb isn't enough to inform the profession - and it speaks volumes about the commercial library press. ************************************************* POST #7: MISSOURI Peggy Sue LaPorte mst61@rockwood.k12.mo.us Marquette HS /Chesterfield, MO Fri, Sep 20, 1996 >Perhaps some of our problem may be that we need better training in selection, selection sources, publishers and vendors in some library science programs. *************************************************POST #8: Re: Multicultural Collection Development Alice H. Yucht--AliceInfo@aol.com Library Management/Information Skills Consultant/Highland Park, NJ Mon, Sep 16, 1996 >.... hasn't anyone pointed out to your prof. (who thinks vendors should do collection development) that this means his colleagues who teach the subject area resources courses will be out of jobs -- because no-one will need to take THEIR courses??!! ************************************************* POST #9: RE: Teaching Collection Development Keith Swigger--a_swigger@VENUS.TWU.EDU Dean/SLIS/Texas Woman's University To: pubyac@nysernet.org (Multiple recipients of list) Sat 9/21/96 >It may be that a member of our faculty has said in class that outsourcing collection development in some circumstances is a good idea. Certainly I respect faculty's academic freedom to present their views on professional issues. >The views of one faculty member do not necessarily represent the views of all of us. As a faculty, we are committed to teaching collection development, believing, as a group, that learning both principles and practices for collection development is important. ************************************************* POST #10: CANADA-Larry Phillips-ljp@GPU.SRV.UALBERTA.CA ljp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/(403) 473-8623/Fri, Sep 20, 1996 To: RPE-L@uhccvm.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Multiple recipients of list RPE-L (Restructuring Public Education Discussion Group) >There are two obvious problems with turning selection of library materials over to a vendor. The first is the actual and perceived conflict of interest. B&T buyers will favour their publications. The second is losing the industry knowledge. In-house staff know all the players and their products, while a vendors staff will be familiar with the vendors products. The vendors knowledge of competitors products is normally marginal and biased. If you don't know a competitor has a better product, you don't have to lie about it. >You might use the conflict of interest inherent in the arrangement as a lever to increase community involvement in the acquisition process. A selection committee made up of stakeholder representatives might be an improvement on the current system. ************************************************ POST #11: Joe Beckman--Jcb22stone@AOL.COM Director of Development, Oekos, A Foundation Fri, Sep 20, 1996 To: RPE-L@uhccvm.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Multiple recipients of list RPE-L (Restructuring Public Education Discussion List) >You might look at the political contributions made by Baker & Taylor and the selection process by which the contract was awarded. Increasingly, decisions are not what they seem. A formal request for information under state Freedom of Information Acts regarding political contributions is sometimes enough to smoke out a fool. >Other than that, a third party evaluation of what B & T achieves, both in terms of costs and of library diversity, should be a reasonable contract for a college, community college, or university class to hustle from the contracting agency. It would save lots of time and trouble, and, ultimately, except for obvious conflicts of interest, it would be very interesting to see if a private buyer would be (a) less expensive or (b) less politically motivated in book ordering. It is not at all clear that either conclusion is obvious, from past performance of past privatizing schemes. Yet it is also not clear that either conclusion is wrong. ************************************************* POST #12: COLORADO--GenAnn Keller gkeller@CSN.NET Elizabeth Middle School/589 S. Banner Elizabeth, CO / Fri, Sep 20, 1996 To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > Doesn't anyone see the conflict of interest here? What is to prevent a publisher from paying a jobber to select their books, no matter what the quality or focus, over those of other publishers? Its a pretty dog eat dog world in publishing and I for one would never plan on housing the wolves with the sheep. ************************************************* POST #13: TEXAS-- Pamela A. DeVoe devoe@fastlane.net LIBRARIAN, Arlington Heights HighSchool/ Fort Worth, TX/ Fri, Sep 20, 1996 > I am concerned about this. B & T say that "quite a few" of the selection staff have library degrees. I wonder just how many and also how much care and concern go into their decisions. > " Hummmm, should we buy the most expensive edition for this library or try to save them some money." Let's see that's a tough one! ************************************************ POST #14: MISSOURI: Peggy Sue LaPorte mst61@rockwood.k12.mo.us Marquette HS /Chesterfield, MO Fri, Sep 20, 1996 > A vendor is still a salesman and is in business to sell their titles, therefore complete dependence on these options would seem to me to be a very dangerous trend. ************************************************ POST #15: Helen Seagraves--Hcgraves@aol.com Hood River / Sat, Sep 21, 1996 >I took it for granted you would have much bigger guns than mine aimed at this ill thought proposal. >I have been librarian in 11 schools, elementary, middle, and high school. There is no way that the varied needs of children from widely disparate educational, social, and cultural backgrounds could have been met by packaged libraries. One size did not fit all. > It is a whole lot like putting the head of A&P in charge of designing school lunches, isn't it? The kids would eat what made the most money for the grocery chain. The jobbers will be sellers and buyers, how tidy. Of course, muzzling library staff members doesn't make Mr. Kane sound like he has much confidence in his viewpoints. (Suppose he watched Citizen Kane a few times too often and got delusions of power.) Sometimes it seems as if stupidity has risen to the top. I agree with your feeling that this is a move which cannot be good for libraries, and it encourages my reservations about B&T as library jobber. ************************************************ POST #16: WASHINGTON: Janice Weihs phslibr@orca.esd114.wednet.edu Peninsula HS Library/Gig Harbor, WA Fri, Sep 20, 1996 >Collection development by B & T? I have found them not to be even the best jobber--things I order, tailored to this high school's curricula, they frequently don't have. Things I order from SLJ reviews frequently are out of stock, or already remaindered, and can't even be reordered, because SLJ reviews are later than Booklist's reviews. They will undoubtedly try to do a good job in the business sense, but they are limited by their own merchandising practices. >Selection is at the core of public service--is this head of the Hawaiian libraries even a librarian in the classic sense? Or is he a businessman, bent on cutting costs, while maintaining a facade of a library system? ************************************************ POST #17: WASHINGTON Jonathan R. Betz-Zall jbetzzall@igc.apc.aorg Children's Librarian/Sno-Isle Regional Library System/Edmonds WA To: pubyac@nysernet.org/PUBYAC DIGEST 788, Mon Sept 2, 1966 Re: Multicultural Library Collections/Using Jobbers >THANK YOU for bringing up this problem! I was beginning to think that no one was objecting to centralizing materials selection on grounds other than erosion of professional scope and knowledge of collections. My only experience with jobber selection has been through...Bro-Dart, who has been quite careful to include multicultural materials in the lists...But the principle of diversity of sources is important to maintain..... What happens with material that the jobber finds too difficult to obtain but a library COULD obtain directly from a small press? Its very easy for a big outfit like BroDart just not wanting to keep up with the myriad of small presses. Keep raising those concerns in your classes! ************************************************* POST#18: MINNESOTA Kathy Geronzin kgeronzin@po1.northeast.k12.ia.us) Northeast MS-HS Librarian/Goose Lake, IA Fri, Sep 20, 1996 >Pat, I can't imagine that Baker & Taylor would be able to do the same type of job as the librarians who are directly involved with the patrons. > Also, I would be concerned that you could only get books supplied by Baker and Taylor and the publishers that they carry. This means you couldn't special order books from small publishers. When I read your post I thought what next! ************************************************* POST #19: TEXAS (Mary Lee Freeman--mlf@tenet.edu) Carrollton Christian Academy Carrollton TX/ Fri Sep 20 96 >I am at a private K-12 school since last year. The year before, I was at St. Monica, K-8 Catholic school in Dallas, and before that a public elementary K-4. At all of these schools I used Follett or Permabound for the general collection, but had to go to smaller, regional or university presses for Texas books. None of the jobbers carry them. >You can imagine how little religious or Christian material they have. Parents are willing to pay private school tuition because they want their children to have religious instruction. Public schools and public libraries seem to avoid controversy by buying almost nothing with a religious theme. I buy directly from Christian presses orbookstores ... > For reviews I use those in the Christian Science Monitor as well as those from Christian magazines. *************************************************