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Hello , As the one who posed the original question, I have had a different experience from some aides. As a clerk for the Seattle Public Library system, I looked at the librarians and thought "I can do the job as well as they with no training". Then I went to library school. I was shocked and personally chastised. I was amazed at how much I did not know -at how much I was required to learn to "earn" the term "librarian". So I have been on both sides of the coin and been forced to eat my words. I loved library school though I found it very challenging. Having been on the job professionally for some eight + years I also am SO aware of how much I have gained from experience. And working with professionals. I have yet to encounter someone who has not gone to library school who understands what a librarian does or knows. And I've yet to meet a librarian I do not like - In my former position, I followed a techie who purchased her library degree from an "alternative" clause in licensing. She never went to library school and she never took ONE course in library science and now she has the same title I do!!! The library did not own a Dewey or a Children's Cat. Baseball was in four different places: 796, 796.3, 796.35 and 796.357. The in-process call number was frequently used without ever being checked. Before automating, no weeding was done and no call numbers were checked. Barcodes were slapped on without a care as to whether tehy were even on the correct book. The person who set up the library had no skills whatsoever and no college. It was utter chaos. This, to me, contributes to teachers' feelings concerning librarians: some unskilled person did it for years - a professional comes along and does it differently and she is seen as picky and time-wasting. "Why do call numbers matter? I know where the book is? We don't have to weed books that are inaccurate or out-dated - we're small." Local librarians are frequently ex-real estate salespersons. I love my profession - I can see from the responses I've received that the situation I experience is quite prevalent. Growing up in Michigan, I was not allowed to even be a page without a college degree. Maybe I should ask, in addition, who IS appreciated? At library school in Vermont I visited school libraries that were state of the art and oh, how I wanted to be in one of those where the library WAS the hub of the school. I remember the person who was head of libraries for the state telling me "if they ask you to teach, don't take the job; you are a librarian, NOT a teacher" and I said, "but if won't teach, I won't work." Katrina Yurenka, librarian presently inbetween jobs in NH kyurenka83@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=