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Original post from Marcia Dressel: I just received a letter (it was addressed generically to "Principal" but passed to me) from the MPLC (Motion Picture Licensing Corporation.) I'm wondering if any of you have seen it as well. It promises immediate licensing for our schoo, for a price, to show "home use only" videos whose use otherwise is against copyright law. My first instinct is "Yes, we need to do this." But since I have not heard of any of the discussion about this coming down the pike, so to speak, and it doesn't smack of legality, I'm skeptical. Have any of you heard that this "umbrella license" was going to be a way for us to escape the "home use only" clause? HIT STARTS HERE: We use MPLC for one of our high school clubs. They sponsor a free movie night and use rental videos. The fee we pay depends on how many movies, how often, etc- Bonnie This is a legitimate company. I've talked to them several times and was considering subscribing to their service just as a "CYA" measure since there are probably faculty members (or substitutes) in any school who might violate (intentionally or not) "fair use" law. However, in discussing this with the principal for funding, his comment was "no, because noone should be showing videos that are not curriculum related, which makes them "fair use" anyway. So I said, "then _you_ need to make that clear to faculty" and I didn't subscribe. Also, they had changed their pricing schedule that would have made it more than I could afford without supplemental funding from the principal and daycare. Joanne My principal brought me the same letter, we decided to ignore it because most of the videos shown in our building are tied to the curriculum so therefore are allowed to be shown. We do have ACE parties and a lock in where videos are shown as treats but decided it was worth the risk. We also wondered if it is a scam of some type. Debbie I looked into something similar last year and it seemed to require that you follow the fair use guidelines of face to face instruction, in the curriculum, not for entertainment purposes, etc. If you are following those guidelines anyway, there is likely no need for additional licensing, so why spend the money. You might want to get a more legal opinion to be safe though. Jeannette Marcia, this is a legal license. Carol Simpson, author of Copyright for Schools. (Marcia notes: Carol and I haven't connected yet, but she offered to help me understand the legalese of this.) Our district is presently making arrangements to get this license. Our media director has investigated extensively, and it seems to be legal. It will probably be used mostly for middle and high schools who want to show videos on busses taking groups a long distance for athletics, conferences, etc. I looked at the list of films and didn't figure there were many we would want to show, but the secondary media specialists thought it was a good thing. Since the district is paying for it, I will have a good free opportunity to evaluate it more fully! Gail Our school district (Diocese) encouraged each school to participate. It does seem a legitamate way to use videos for educational purposes - NOT FRIDAY AFTERNOON ENTERTAINMENT! We have purchased the license (but "don't" tell the teachers :))) so we're covered. We continue to tell them if it's not in your plan books two days before and two days after, we'd have a hard time "defending" it in court AND never, never on a Friday afternoon.... :) We of course can use the threat that someone might not like the Catholic Church and would turn us in for spite when they heard a parent saying "Oh, my child watched....in school." Ah well..... Kate You do not need any license to show a video, even if it's labeled "Home Use Only", IF (and it's a big IF) you follow the 4 guidelines of the copyright regs for fair use: 1. legal copy (not pirated) 2. shown in classroom or other place of usual instruction 3. all students and instructor are in the same location (ie: not distance learning) 4. (this is the catch) it is an *integral* part of the current instruction going on. I am not sure what a "license" gives you. With one can you then show any video that is covered by the license for any reason you want? I really don't know but I'd check into it before spending the $100s that those licenses cost.--Sally I know that Canadian rules & regulations are different from American ones, but our school has such a license from two separate sources in order to cover as many different producers and distributors as possible. These two licenses cost us a total of $0.60 CAN per registered student in the school. Things to watch out for are: - which producers/distributors are covered by the license (most licenses do NOT cover all of them) - is it a one time cost for the school (per year), or do you have to pay repeatedly? - what kind of reporting is required as to what is actually shown in the school? Will you have your staff onside? Who will fill in & mail the reports? Hope you find this helpful. Brigitte My principal also gave me some information on this. Hers came to her name from the National Catholic Education Association. This was an issue we'd recently been discussing she passed it on to me for my consideration. We decided it was fairly expensive ($250.00 per year) for our school of 400 students. Since teachers can already show these videos in a strict instructional setting, all it would allow is "recreational" showings. We can certainly come up with less expensive alternatives. Jill Yes, I have heard of this group. A license from them will permit your school to show videos for entertainment purposes. You don't need it if you are using videos (even those marked "home use only") for proper educational purposes. My previous school was a residential and community high school, and we had videos probably every other weekend. We have a license from them, so we were legal. I would suggest that if you show a lot of videos for entertainment you would be wise to get the license, since it will save you a lot of hassle. If you only show entertainment videos once in a great while, and you plan ahead, you can probably get by with just getting the permission for each individual use. You need to look at your own situation to decide whether you need the license or not. David My principal gave me the letter and wanted me to let him know what I could find out. I know videos are shown in the classrooms that have been purchased. We have a video retrieval system and I heard something about that being considered public use because anyone besides that class could tune in. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------------- Marcia Dressel, Library Media Specialist dressel@oz.osceola.k12.wi.us Osceola Elementary School OR Osceola Intermediate School 250 Tenth Avenue, PO Box 128 550 Chieftain Street, PO Box 128 Osceola WI USA 54020-0128 Osceola WI USA 54020-0128 -------------------------------------------------------------------- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 3) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=