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Whew! I think I got more than fifty replies in two days! Almost everyone said they keep the markers (a lot are paint sticks, some are plastic from a library supply place) in one or two central locations, near the entrance or on the checkout desk or suchlike. Most people say they have very little problem with inappropriate use and that they insure this by making the consequence for any infraction immediate: loss of library borrowing for the day or sent back to class. Several said that noise made with the sticks is worse than sword play - slapping on legs or hands or book shelves. One defined misuse as a stick being higher than a shoulder and making ANY sound. And several said they stopped using the paint sticks due to the problems. Here are some of the ways our colleagues use these: We practice every time the class comes to the library. I have a class list and work my way through the list so every child practices in front of the whole class - "slide the shelf marker next to the book, pull the book off the shelf, look at the book, make a decision, if you don't want it put the book back on the shelf next to the shelf marker, spine out, call number at the bottom" Many paint the sticks different colors or put shapes or stickers on the end, so kids can tell which one marks whose book. Then the sticks are covered with several coats of stuff like polyurethane. On the other hand If you are purchasing them, get one color. They like to fight over which color they get. I made up a supply of shelf markers using neon colored poster board. I cut them about 2 1/2 to 3 inches wide and 10 to 12 inches long. I then used old greeting cards to find pictures of animals, flowers, whatever and pasted the cutouts at the top of the marker then laminated them to make them last longer. Kids loved them, and because they were different colors with different pictures, they could recognize their own markers when they left one in the shelves. Rather than shelf markers that are "permanent" I give students a new bookmark each time they come to library from a nicely displayed basket at the door. These are photocopies from THE BOOKMARK BOOK. The student is to write their last name and class on the back of the bookmark; use it as a shelf marker; bring it to the desk for check out so that we (the computer) doesn't have to guess at the correct spelling of your last name; take the book mark with you to use this week. The book marks are theme/month/holiday/season /Dewey/ etc. oriented. We now make a marker for each child with his/her name and homeroom on it. They are strips of white construction paper about 3 by 18 inches. We laminate them all at the beginning of the year. They stick out nice and far between books on the shelves, hold up well for a year, and are totally useless for whacking. I laminated bulletin board borders to use. It lasts longer, and I don't find that they use them as swords (like paint sticks) because they are flexible. We use an attractive book mark glued to a much larger sheet of construction paper and then laminated. About 8"X 4" These are housed in a magazine storage box in the middle of the library. They are too floppy to use for whacking. I introduced the shelf-markers by singing the Hokey Pokey song with the markers: You put the marker in; you pull the good book out; you put the book back in then you take the marker out. You go up to the desk and you check a good book out...that's what it's all about! Demonstrate while singing! Have fun. We currently use wooden rulers as the school had done before. They are kept in a coffee can on the end of one shelf in the E section. The children tend to leave them at the check-out counter so I added a return can there. We call them browse boards, as they help you 'shop' for your book. I keep mine in a plastic tub right near the door to the library. That's where they 'live' when they aren't helping you browse for your library books. I have used the paint stick, (actually they are 12 inch rulers) shelf markers for the past 5 years with very good results. Being a K-8 Library/Media Center I deal with a broad age of students. I have the shelf markers placed on the shelves, 3-5 for every vertical section of shelves in the room. I have found that the students will use them if they are within easy reach of where they are, but they won't go out of their way to pick one up. I ask that ALL the students use them all the time. Nothing makes a bigger impression on the primary students than to see the Middle School students using a shelf marker. Thanks, everyone, for some great ideas! --------------------- Johanna Halbeisen, Teacher Librarian Woodland Elementary School (preK-4) 80 Powder Mill Rd. Southwick, MA 01077 johanna@massed.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=