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The to my target responses were overwhelming. Obviously this is a topic people feel strongly about. Thank you all for your input. I have grouped the responses according to the questions I posted. 1. Is AR used in your high school? 2. What is your experience with AR in high school? We use AR in our high school library. The students are required to read 1 book a month for their English class. They are then graded on a pass fail basis. Those students who want an A grade will read the books. It has been a good experience for them. We have purchased a lot of the college bound tests. **** We just started using AR at the parochial high school where I work. Our feeder schools had been using it for a number of years and the consensus among the students before this year was that they were SO glad to be done with it. (Imagine their surprise this year :-) At any rate, the way it works here is that each student has to read one book in their ZPD (preferably the lower end) and test on it during the first three quarters. Each English teacher decides how he or she will use the AR scores, and the emphasis is on book level, not points. Although we would like to think it fosters a love of reading, I think our main goal is to improve reading comprehension, because everyone wants to see better standardized test scores in that area. Some kids are great about it, but lots of them have trouble settling on a title, and lots of times they'll pick a book that has been made into a movie, then take the test (usually not with the best results.) I am in favor of the program, because I think we will accomplish our goal of improved reading comprehension. **** We used to use AR here at Marshfield High School, but the English teachers last year decided to quit using it. Part of the problem was that, with 20,000 books, we were able to find only about 1900 quizzes. Then, if you ask students to find books in their "zone", that really narrows the selection. Instead of 20,000 books to choose from, you have only a few hundred. One of our alternative education schools is still using it, however. But the Special Ed people aren't interested. **** We are using Scholastic Reading Counts. IMHO, much better suited to high school. Check it out. **** In our district, students use AR in some elementary and all jr. highs. Only one high school has AR. The parents at our high school are totally fed up with AR by the time their students leave junior high and are adamant that it not be implemented here. As a parent, I've found that no matter how many tests are bought, they can't afford all of them, and my boys truly hated AR. I will have them read an AR book to get their minimum points and then they can read books for fun. Sad to turn reading into a situation similar to "eat your dinner, then you can have dessert." **** I was a Media Specialist at a 5th-6th grade school for six years where they used AR. There were abuses and misuses but for the most part it was successful. When I came to the HS I was amazed at how little they read...for whatever reasons, they don't have time, they're reading for classes, they just don't want to. I even had some graduating Seniors tell me they had never read a book in all of HS. They just used Cliff notes or Spark notes for assigned classics. (How sad...they don't realize how they are hurting themselves for college!) Well, anyway, I introduced AR. Most of the teachers use it as bonus points (which isn't the best use of it, really, since the kids who are getting the bonus points usually don't need them.) A couple of our best teachers require 10 points per semester. In HS, that's only one or two books a semester. It really has helped and kids are finding books they didn't know we had! I'm not just trying to sell AR, but I do think we need something in HS to promote reading....otherwise many of them just won't do it. **** I find that it works extremely well for remedial reading students as the reading practice portion of their program, that it rewards good readers for something they do already, and that it gets the kids in between reading when in the past they did not. I think it's a very good program, if implemented properly -- it can't be the only thing you do for reading in your school. And you must have buy-in from your teachers and it must count for part of the students' grade. In my school, it's part of English class. That's a very brief summary of my experiences. I'd be glad to answer any other questions you have. 3. Are there other suggestions or alternatives you would offer? We chose Reading Counts over AR. It was more appropriate for high school level. I think when the kids get to high school, it may help to have something different. At this age the students need to think of Reading Counts as a more grown up- accelerated reader. **** We don't have AR but Scholastic Reading Counts! No one uses it except the kids who are in reading classes. Their teachers use it therefore they have no choice. But we really haven't promoted it either. **** Make sure you buy books that the kids will enjoy reading. We had a lot of the classics in our library, so the previous librarian ordered quiz sets that featured these titles. If you have the money to spend, get the fun books too, because you'll get the kids to read, and they'll enjoy the experience more than if they had only the standard "required reading" titles to choose from. **** AS for other suggestions, probably the tried and true classics, such as book talks, displays, tie-ins with movies, and all the other stuff we've been doing still work about as well as AR/RC at high school - and offer more reading choices . **** Check the archives for Reading Counts vs. AR - I think RC comes out ahead and I think they have more 'older books' than AR. IMHO. **** I have been very happy with Reading Counts in high school. I have used it for almost 20 years. In both high schools I have been in, it has really helped get kids reading. But your principal needs to know that this really happens when the teachers buy in too, and make reading outside of class a priority. RC tests each have 30 questions and you decide how many questions each student gets and if they can take quizzes over. My students appreciate getting the 3 chances. They still usually can't pass if they haven't read the book. RC has all kinds of flexibility in setting points, reading levels, etc. The main problem with AR is that there are only 10 question per test. Given high school students proclivity to cheat or just to try to beat the system, how long would it be before the questions on many tests would be known to most of the student body? In addition, RC now sells what it calls its complete package for high school which includes the program and every test they make for high school and middle school (over 10,000) for about $3,200. This is a very good deal and we just upgraded to it. I had to turn off the really easy stuff like the Nancy Drew, etc. But it answers the need for giving kids lots of free choice across all reading and interest levels. If you have further questions feel free to call me at school 406 72802400 ext. 7630. **** We use Reading Counts and just before school started the high school principal decided to move it into high school. He inserted a 20 minute Class called Sustained Silent Reading. Any Student with a D or F average goes for tutoring during this time but other students go to a classroom for silent reading. It must be a library book that we have a test for and not be on the high school book report lists. We have had to change from students taking test any time to only during ssr and only in the computer lab to stop one student from taking test for others, But otherwise the program is working well. I have seen more high school students in my library than ever before. (high school check outs are up 250%) Students are reading more and the students that like to read but didn't want anyone to know are now carrying books to other classes. I feel that anything to get students to read is great. Students have to pass one reading counts test every 9 weeks but must be reading a book every day. No Magazines and no homework during SSR. Hope this helps. 4. Comments/Advice I am in the same situation where the AR program is at MS and Elem. but not at HS and you can definitely see a difference in circulation. I have wondered if the HS kids have too much to read for classes (AP, etc.) or if they are just sick of having to read. I, like you, would love to think about instituting AR at this level. I'd be interested to see what you find out! **** If AR is already used within the district - half the job has been done. Students will be familiar with the system and won't require instruction on its use. But if the elem. schools are not using "individual goal setting," you will have a problem changing mind-sets - this is not a program directed toward points or # of books read. You will probably need to order quizzes for your existing collection and possibly order additional titles (with quizzes). It is helpful to label all the books by reading level (but NOT to shelve them according to reading level). Our district uses the Star Reading test which is part of the Reading Renaissance package. It has been very helpful since we have found that national tests do not match the reading levels used in AR. You will be surprised at student reading levels - be prepared. You will be surprised at book reading levels - be prepared. Remember they are assigning "reading levels" they are not advising you on which level is appropriate reading for students. Most adult reading is level 4-5 - many adult topics/titles are not suitable for high school. Interest level, maturity level and reading level are three very different things - don't confuse or combine them. There have been some very good postings in LM-Net regarding AR - do not blame the tool, blame the carpenter. AR will do what you ask it to do, be sure you know what you are asking. I would recommend that it BE REQUIRED do not use it as an "add-on" to a regular class; student and teacher need to work on PERSONAL OBJECTIVES - grades are assigned with regard to the student's % of achievement of their personal goal (NOT according to points or # of books read). This program provides individualized instruction - each student reading at a level appropriate for them (through use of the Star Test). It will level the playing field for those who struggle with reading. If you allow the program to focus on points or # of books read, the readers will read and the non-readers won't compete. This will require TOTAL teacher buy-in - the Librarian cannot do it alone. Go to every Reading Renaissance workshop your district can afford. Take KEY PLAYERS (esp. teachers) with you. Do not allow this program to focus on gimmicks - focus on each student doing their personal best. Once students realize it is not a competition - once they realize it's about comprehension not points - they will participate. But of course teenagers won't do anything without a struggle. Our high school is slowly coming on board with AR, BECAUSE the students who have had it in elem. school are bringing it with them into the high school. We've had it in place for 4 years and are still learning - it has been a slow process. One thing I know - teachers/librarians outlast administrators, you need staff buy-in regardless of what admin does or says. Without buy-in the program will die when the admin leaves and the $$$ will have been wasted - the students will feel used and they won't trust you when you try the next new "thing." **** Just a question, if AR is truly successful at the elementary and middle level why don't the students have a love of reading when they get to High School? **** If HS librarians want students to read for pleasure, then they are going to have to work hard at advocating their library to their students and providing reading material that HS students want to read. They have to get to know students and "target" their interests. I was at a conference not too long ago and the HS librarian sitting next to me complained that her students never used the library...of course this woman was complaining about what occurred when students were in the library. HS librarians must give students a reason to come to the library. Not just assume, "if you buy books, they will come." **** Speaking as a mother, when my daughter was in HS she was taking the AP/Honors classes. She did not have time to read for pleasure b/c she had 6 academic classes and one elective [she took 2 languages]. Now that she is out of college she reads all the time, just like her mom. I think many HS kids would be too busy to read 5-6 books a semester, or whatever the goal was. **** I don't think AR has been around long enough to gauge the effect on high school reading. However, for those of you looking around for research project or independent study, I think you could be the first or among the first to do one. I did a quick search of the literature and I couldn't find anything that addresses the effect of reading programs such as AR on high school reading. **** I think time is often the issue with high school students. I have always been an avid reader (hey, I'm a librarian after all) but the time I probably did the least recreational reading was when I was in High School. I always liked it when we were assigned to read novels in English class, since at least I could justify the time spent on reading a "story". Even if AR is successful beyond belief, High School students will always be pressed for time. Somehow, it did not seem as bad in college, even though I was at a challenging college, but I still found at least some time to read for pleasure. **** Just a question, if AR is truly successful at the elementary and middle level why don't the students have a love of reading when they get to High School? I think it's pretty clear that AR does not instill a love of reading. What it does do is coerce children to read. The only good thing I can see about this is that the more experience they have with reading, the more likely it is they will be adequate readers. I would never expect AR to produce happy readers -- only functional ones. (The same goes for just about any extrinsic motivational method, such as summer reading programs, etc.) First of all, "truly successful" is in the eye of the beholder (criteria and judges). But that's another discussion that we have had on this list before. High school kids are, as another responder said, very busy. Also, I think (and can toss stones, since I taught HS English for many years) that teachers assign boring books. Kids have to move up through a hierarchy of lit levels before they can "enjoy" classics. We turn them off of reading. Early in my career I was guilty of that myself as I required reading from classic lists. **** I don't believe AR is meant to instill a love reading in kids. Some kids are turned on to reading by the program, but I feel it's main benefit is that it gets kids to PRACTICE reading so their skills improve. As I tell the kids, just like piano and football and dance, you can only get better with practice. Furthermore, reading is the one skill they will need for the rest of their lives. At some point they will have to give up sports, they don't NEED to play the piano or dance, but they will ALWAYS need to read. In my 7 years of using the program with hundreds of students, only a handful of kids have said they didn't enjoy reading until they started AR, but never has a student said "I'm not a good reader because of AR." Melanie Parker LMS student HS English teacher mlparker@sbo.hampton.k12.va.us Bethel High School Hampton, VA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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