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Here is my original posting: If you have an open lab in your school, how is scheduling handled? Right now we have an open lab that has 28 computers in it. There are about 65 teachers in my school who have to share this one room. Many teachers are singing up to use the lab during a particular hour for five or more days in a row. This becomes a major problem when another teacher wants to use the lab for only one day and sees that the lab is being used by one teacher for so many days in a row and then others have signed up for it after that. This is also a problem because those who only need the lab for a day or so do not understand why the other teachers need so much time in the lab. They ask if it is possible for the students to be productively using all of this time. I suppose it depends on the instructor and the assignment. How does your school handle scheduling time in the open lab? Are teachers limited to scheduling for only 2-3 days in a row for a particular hour? If yes, how was this presented to your staff? Has it worked well for your school? What other scheduling policies are out there? I'm looking for any ideas on this topic. Here are the responses I received. A BIG thanks to everyone who shared how the open lab is scheduled in their school! --- To be equitable, I would give each teacher a max of, say, three days a month. If they desire more, they have to wait until the day before. If it is still available,then they can have it since no one else will be using it. THat is the only way I know of. We dont even have an oen lab-- we are it, with 30 workstations. Therefore, if people want to do typing of poems or non-research things, I make them wait until a few days before the date and then they cna have it. --- I have 26 computers in my library. I call it the Digital Resource Area. Its primary purpose is for research. Its secondary purpose is for creating and publishing projects related to research. If there are free blocks of time, I allow teachers to bring their classes in for word processing. My policy is that a teacher may sign up for no more than three consecutive blocks in a row. This has worked fairly well, allowing teachers a chance to do extended project research with a class without monopolizing a single block. Our blocks are 70 minutes long so, 3 1/2 hours of research is plenty for most projects and within most teens' attention spans :) I had 2 teachers out of 64 that took unfair advantage of the DRA and that is why I had to create a "rule" which limited the number of consecutive days. One still tries to get to the sign up list first and schedule three in a row, skip one and then schedule another three in a row! --- We too have experienced problems with lab scheduling. Some teachers schedule way too many days in the lab and it does keep others from being able to use it. As a former classroom teacher, and now watching others utilize lab time, I believe that any time past 3 days in a row on any given assignment or project means a lot of time wasting. Students are more efficient if they know their time is limited, and it is a rare project indeed that requires more in class time than that. In my experience, teachers see it as an easy period and often schedule extra time to make it easy for subs, to get things graded, etc. We limit the signup to 3 days running and have seldom had any problems with it. It was presented with the idea that with my permission more than the 3 could be signed up for as long as the teacher understood that if the lab was needed by someone else they could be "bumped" on subsequent days. That took care of the complaints about big projects, and made folks rethink their use of lab time. --- This is for an elementary school. We set up a permanent time each week for teachers (their choice as much as possible) and then allow them to sign up for additional time as needed on a daily basis. It has worked pretty well for us - although we have fewer teachers than you do. We have a technology committee that set up the schedule so it wasn't a problem when we presented it to the faculty. Of course, you always get a couple who complain but until they're willing to be on the committee, I just smile and say we did the best we could. --- We have three labs as well as the library lab. We schedule the library lab and it must have something to do with research being done in the library. We have a simple clipboard in the library for the other labs. It is here only as a matter of convenience. We have a lab EA who watches over the labs and so we have nothing to do with them. Because we have so many there hasn't really been a problem but I can see how it can be in yours. This sounds like an administrative decision to me. Perhaps your principal could limit the days in a row the lab can be used by an individual teacher. P.S. No one ever thinks another person's work is as important as theirs. --- I put out a week's schedule at a time so people don't hog the same time every week which some like to do. Our teachers have to put right on the schedule what they are working on and the standard, so when others needs time, we double check to see if teacher is really going to use all that time, if he or she can move to a different time to accommodate another class, etc. For the most part everybody is flexible and if nothing can be worked out -- which I can't recall ever happening -- I just make sure the teacher whose needs weren't met gets first crack at the next week's schedule. Many projects take 5 days of more. I have 2nd graders working for half an hour a day from now until the end of school on a research project with a ppt to be the culminating product. Usually people using the lab for multiple days are doing something more productive than those who just want a half hour in the lab to "play." --- I don't have an official policy, but generally if a teacher signs up for more than two days in a row I question it. If someone else needs the library they generally talk to whoever got their first and work things out. --- yes, i limit. i ask that they not schedule more than 2 days/week and can't schedule more than 2 weeks in advance. but this is a smaller school and most teachers don't plan very far in advance. they also call on the day they are ready to use the lab and ask me if anyone is signed up for a certain period. if someone needs it more than 2 days in a row, i let them sign up (telling them i may ask them to give up a day at some point) and if another teacher comes asking to use it i just send them to the scheduled teacher and ask if they can jump in for a day. it's all a matter of sharing resources. and i remind them of that. after the initial problems with 2 teachers, it has worked fine. we have 11 computers in the lab and 4 in the library, so sometimes 2 classes can share space or have part of the class doing research and writing while the others type. but we also have smaller classes here too. (under 20 most times and as the quarter moves on absences increase). i know my system wont work in a bigger school, but the proposition of sharing limited resources does. --- I ran into this two years ago, so we instituted for last year the rule that no one could have more than two consecutive days in any week. They could sign up for two consecutive days and then a third, non-consecutive day. That helped a lot and we just instituted it as a rule and didn't ask anyone's permission. Teachers who felt they needed more than two days in a row were told to sign up for a Thursday-Friday and then Monday-Tuesday segment, because that fit into the guidelines. This year I discovered that some of the teachers were signing up in September for what they figured they'd need in May, so we had to quickly institute the 'no more than four weeks in advance' rule. Nobody is truly thrilled by the rules, but no one argues, either, because they all recognize that we're short of computer labs. --- At one of the schools in my district you can't sign up for the lab until that morning. First come first served. They do not have near the number of teachers you are talking, that have to share the lab. They seem to have adapted to this system. --- Teachers are allowed to schedule only 2 consecutive days in any week, and no more than 5 days in any month. This was presented as an administrative mandate in order to provide "equitable access/use for all classes." The AP checks the schedule every month, and has been known to ask for the lesson plans re: any computer lab use !! --- First and foremost...you need more than 1 lab! We have 25 homerooms and have 2 labs. The teachers get scheduled three times a week by the office. They are free to sign up for the other days at times of their choice. Everyone gets a fair chance that way. --- We have a computerized schedule created in Outlook Express. If teachers have a conflict, is is up to them to hash it out. --- At our school the teachers sign up, and it's on a first come basis. To my knowledge there hasn't been a problem. Our students also have an assigned time for 30 minutes which is under theinstruction of the lab aide. --- Not much for suggestions, but here is some data for you. We actually allow 4 weeks in advance. Very seldom does anyone sign up for more than 4 of 5 diays in a row, although 2 to 3 days is common. We only have about 28 staff and people try to be flexible. It works pretty well though. We actually just upped it to 4 weeks in advance a month or so ago, it was only two weeks in advance. --- I handle scheduling for the library lab as well as the other three labs in the school. Computer classes automatically block a lab for the periods in which they are taught. I have had the methods of research teacher sign up for 5 weeks in a row with the understanding that if someone else needs it and gives advance notice she needs to meet in the classroom that day. I also have to teach a 5 week research unit of study skills class and take up the lab most of that time. I will try and work around other teachers as well. There has been some grumbling but we do work things out for the most part. Some of the smaller computer classes have allowed classes to use their labs. Dou you have other computer labs? My main problem is the teachers who don'y give advance notice and who come in the morning and expect lab space all day. --- Our school is similar in size (1100 kids, about 55 staff), but as of this year, we have two computer labs. That has made a tremendous difference. The second one was a keyboarding/publications lab, but that job position was eliminated. We keep three clipboards in the media center-one for MC, and one for each lab. I only put out four weeks at a time. Very rarely have I had anybody sign up for an entire week, so I haven'treally had to say anything. The media specialist before me recommended the four weeks at a time. I have to say, it's worked pretty well. Otherwise, the media center gets all booked up by many of the same people, including those who really have nothing planned, but want to block out the time. --- We have a computer lab in the library and I schedule on a first-come, first-serve basis. Sofar, I haven't had to limit any teacher to a certain number of days. If a teacher wants to schedule and notices that another teacher has scheduled several days, I suggest (very nicely) that they get together themselves:work that out and let me know. That way, I'm not in the middle. Much of the time, the teacher who signed for several days will give up a day. It's working really well and it prevents me from looking like I am limiting library use. --- We have several computers in the computer room with a technology teacher. The first 3 hours are taken up by scheduled classes he is scheduled to teach. The rest of the day is open lab sign up. We also have six computers in the library that are used on a first come first serve basis. Students sign up when they arrive, unless a teacher reserves ahead of time. --- I received this email and thought I would give you some input. I am an educator who also owns a software company. A few years ago I had a friend of mine write program to in which teachers could schedule a lab for student use from their desktop computer. We quickly realized that we could also list other items on the program for reservation (i.e. projectors, digital cameras, etc.). The program is called Lab Scheduler and I have it listed on my web site at www.LPC-K12.com. We are rewriting it currently and hope to have a new version out by this August. Please take a look at let me know what you think. I can be contacted at this email for Woodford County Schools in Versailles, KY or at jadams@LPC-K12.com. Jimmy Adams --- We used to have the same problem. Now we allow teachers to sign up for 2-3 days of research and tell them that if they sign up for more days and someone else needs the media center for initial research, they will be bumped. Also, concerning using our computers for non-research based assignments, we share this statement with them: "Media Center Sign-up Policies: Since the media center program is curriculum based and our priority is working with classes on full research projects, the bulk of our scheduling will be devoted to this process. Our media center lab has 27 computers and several staff members have inquired about booking the lab for specific program use. Our policy is to accept this type of project into the lab only if it is not needed by a research class. Therefore, you may sign up for the media center computer lab with the understanding that you may very well be bumped by a class needing all of the resources available on the computers for research. You will be advised the week prior to scheduled time if you have been bumped. Our hope is that everyone will be very understanding with this process." --- We have 1 open lab with 41 computers in it. It is strictly scheduled on a first come basis. We do have a problem with some teachers scheduling for up to 2 weeks at a time but since the lab is so large we can often get more than one class into the lab at once and most teachers are more than willing to share. We also have 4 additional labs in our building but they are all used by the business department at some point during the day. 1 or 2 of those labs are open a few additional periods for teachers to use but unfortunately the busiest periods are usually the periods that are booked solid in all the labs but the libraries. I have 125 teachers with 1875 students. -- http://www.lakeshoreschools.k12.mi.us/high/media/homepg.htm acameron@remc11.k12.mi.us Alma Cameron HS Library Media Specialist Stevensville, MI 49127 (W) Phone: 616-428-1405 (F) 616-428-1570 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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