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Deborah, You are trying to link those two terms, and that is not the intent. The = "fair price" part is basically for out of print works. The work is no = longer produced by the publisher (or the publisher is out of business), = but an out of print bookseller knows there is a market for this work (for = example, Madonna's Sex book) and has a few copies. So he puts a price on = it of 4 or 5 times face value, and actually sells one or two a year at = that price. That is NOT a "fair price" for the book and you could make a = copy. IF the purpose of the copy is preservation, the copy can be digital = - in fact you can make =3D3=3D digital copies. Note, however, that the = copy (copies) cannot leave the premises of your library, even via network = (this is from DMCA) if it is a digital copy. For obsolete formats, the rule of thumb is that you can't find the = equipment to play the material on. So consumer Beta format videos are = obsolete since you can't buy a consumer Beta format player any longer. But = phonodiscs (records) and filmstrips are still viable formats since the = equipment to play them is still sold. Carol Simpson University of North Texas SLIS carol_simpson@unt.edu >>> Deborah Stafford <Deborah_Stafford@COMPUSERVE.COM> 08/10/03 10:02AM = >>> I also found the chart to be very useful and would like to use it. I do have a question concerning the software "fine print" "If = unavailab=3D le at fair price or is an obsolete format." I am sure that some of my teachers (and students) will see the "unavailab= =3D le at fair price" and figure that all is ok. =3D My interpretation of "fair price" is the price that the software sold originally as opposed to a price widly inflated because the item is no longer produced. Thus, unless the item is not available except at an inflated price then we may not copy - but if someone is reselling an obsolete item at an inflate price then the copying is ok? Is this in line with what others think? Deborah J. Stafford Gen. H.H. Arnold High School Wiesbaden Germany now proudly on the web at http://www.wies-hs.eu.odedodea.edu=20 Deborah_Stafford@compuserve.com=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu=20 In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/=20 Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml=20 LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/=20 LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D--=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-