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Dear LMNET Community, Sorry for this late hit. It’s the day after Christmas, thus I have time to post one! Thanks to everyone who sent information regarding the appropriateness of Clive Cussler’s Dirk Pitt series and the Dune series for middle school. Based on the majority of the responses, I’m hearing that all of the books in question are appropriate for Middle Schoolers. I plan to put them in my collection. (I’ll start with a few of the full-blown Cussler titles first.) Below I’ve listed some individual concerns, suggestions or pieces of pertinent information received from the list. They were all so good I included most of them with a little editing: * (Dirk Pitt series) “It can be violent, but I do not feel it is needlessly so. Most of it centers around oceanographic mysteries and adventures. Many of these mysteries do involve terrorist attempts to recover weapons from sunken submarines or people trying to pilfer artifacts from old shipwrecks, etc, etc. The books main characters make several references to the benefits of education and scientific research. Many of the situations they are involved in involve in depth knowledge of physics and chemistry as applied to things like underwater welding, lifting large underwater objects,dangerous wreck diving, and much more.” * “Cussler’s books also are available in a "young adult edition" that trims a little of the violence and adult humor. “They are often available through Scholastic.” * I would not recommend the regular set of these books for this age group (due to the promiscuous material). However, there is a young adult version of some titles that are ok (cleaned up). These books are quite popular with our middle school boys. * If your boys are interested in these types of books (mystery with adventure), I would highly recommend the Finnegan Zwake mystery series by Michael Dahl. I can't keepthem on the shelves! * I read Dirk Pitt and I do not remember any sex other than occasional, the same kind of thing you would see in Indiana Jones movies. However there is violence and suspense. * I have read the Dune series... excellent science fiction.. Frank Herbert is a master Cussler is fine. Pitt is adventurous, so lots of action. Some blood as they get themselves out of situations sometimes but no killing for killings sake. AND no language. What could be better in an adult book that a kid would like? * I re-read the DUNE series often, but again the philosophical musings may be more sophisticated than middle school readers will pursue. * I have read several of the Dune books and our collection contains at least 5 of them. I'd say they are appropriate for upper middle grades and up. Frankly, I don't think they are attractive to younger readers due to their length, complicated story line and relatively slow pacing. We do have a few students who have worked their way through the series. * We have both in our library. The better readers like them. also, Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card is an excellent addition. * All the stories involve underwater explorations/rescues and adventure. Dirk collects classic cars. Dirk Pitt is the main character with several other consistent characters. He has a girlfriend, but there are no "sex" scenes per se. Language is appropriate. * I am an adventure/mystery reader, my husband is a sci-fi reader. We both LOVE Cussler's books. You might want to check one out of the library over the winter break and try it. They do not have to be read in order, but there are occasional references made to a previous story, but you do not have to know the story to read the newer one. * Cussler has started writing himself into the stories. Dirk Pitt crosses paths with someone named Clive Cussler - much like Alfred Hitchcock made a cameo appearance in some of his old films. * I can recommend Clive Cussler books as appropriate for the Middle School. I have several in my collection. I have been a Clive Cussler fan since my high school days and have read every one of his books. Dune is classic sci fi, and I have had it on the shelf 5-8 for years. It is not heavily read, but belongs there. Thanks again! Karen Puckett North Rowan Middle School Spencer, NC skpuckett@earthlink.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-