I missed Craig's request, so let me throw another idea out.
In our K-4 elementary, most of the requests come as "I want Cinderella"
or "I want Beauty and the beast", so I decided to organize them by a
standard TITLE (gasp!!!). Consequently, all legitimate versions of
Cinderella are 398.2 Cin; this includes traditional Cinderella, The
Rough-Faced Girl, Aspet, The Egyptian Cinderella, etc. Stone Soup, Bone
Button Borscht and another title which currently escapes me are all
398.2 Sto. We are still in the process of changing over and I am
discovering that we have more variations of some stories that I
thought. It seems to be working for us as all of us can find things
EASILY!!!! We are not on a union catalog, so that helps.
Barb Engvall
Library Media Specialist
John Campbell Elem
Selah, WA
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Craig Seasholes wrote:
> We are a thoughtful, though split group on this one. Twelve people
> weighed
> in on my question regarding cataloging folktales in an elementary
> school
> library. Thanks to all.
>
> Author (6)
> Ours are by author. njackson@lbusd.k12.ca.us
> <mailto:njackson@lbusd.k12.ca.us>
>
> I find searching for fairy tales very difficult. Sometimes they are
> under the title, illustrator, or compiler. I think if you added
> geographic area to the mix it would really be hard to find all your
> copies of a particular tale.
> dbalsam@pen.k12.va.us <mailto:dbalsam@pen.k12.va.us>
>
> It should be by author last name, that way it will confirm to the
> public
> library collection and to established practice--but of course you can
> always do what you thinks works best for your school and kids
> Annamarie Lavieri
> Blakely School Librarian
> Bainbridge Is. WA
>
>
> I say author's last name. It is consistent with how the rest of
> nonfiction is catalogued. Also, some stories may have originated in
> French Canada, for example, but then retold by the Creoles in Lousiana.
> What region would it then be cataloged under?
> lrobe.ri.wfb@wfbschools.com
>
> IMHO, we have the authority and responsibility to use cataloging in
> such a
> way that it will provide the best access to information for our
> particular
> patrons. I have made choices like this many times for my own library
> collections. One caveat, though. I only advocate this kind of thing if
> you
> have a stand-alone catalog, and are not sharing records with other
> libraries
> in your district, because this kind of thing really screws up shared
> cataloging. Assuming that you don't, I would choose to sort them by
> region,
> if that is how you and your patrons tend to look for them. So, the call
> number might be something like 398.2 INDIA, or however you determine
> what
> regional notation makes the best sense. lsmith@ohsd.net
> <mailto:lsmith@ohsd.net>
>
> What an interesting question.
> I have the same situation with several shelves of folktales that are
> organized by author. Outside of the Kellogg books, the kids never seem
> to be able to find what they want. They seem to be asking for tales by
> title and frequently don't have time to stand in line for a few seconds
> use of the OPAC (that's a separate issue!) Anyway, I am always
> interested in changes I can do to make the library more "user
> friendly."
> zswenson@grandecom.net
>
>
> Region (5)
>
> Do folk tales really have an author? I mean, they are so old that
> probably
> there is no author for all of them. Then again, my forte is adult
> literature.
>
> I say sort by region . . . flyer13@aol.com <mailto:flyer13@aol.com>
>
> Sometimes by using our cataloging reference books we can figure out
> more
> differentiated numbers which may include regions - & sometimes not!
> We go
> as far as we can with the numbers then go to author's last name.
> lhutchison@mail.sweeny.isd.esc4.net
>
> I used to put them all in 398.2 and subscript in all caps the name of
> the
> country (WORLD for assorted ones) and then file by author because that
> way
> my teachers wanting French tales found them all together except for the
> odd one in World collections. I did the same thing with holidays and
> with careers and carried out my 920s so that all the mathematicians
> were
> together, all the poets etc. hlj002@ns1.wmdc.edu
> <mailto:hlj002@ns1.wmdc.edu>
>
> Since i had four shelves of folktakes, decided touse a non-standard
> cataloging for folktakes 398.2+county code (no 9 in between)ie US
> folktales
> 398.273 Egyptian 398.262 French 398.244 http://www.halsted.org/br.htm
> <http://www.halsted.org/br.htm>
>
>
> Tale Type (1)
> Anyhow, I was wondering if this would be too complicated, but why not
> organize them by tale type? That way if someone is looking for a
> trickster tale or a Jack story or whatever they would all be in one
> place. It would also make it easier to find examples from various
> cultures of similar types of stories. I liked Margaret Read MacDonald's
> motif and tale type index and it could be a starting point for
> organization. Laura Simeon [thisbe@kjsl.com]
>
> Author (6)
> Ours are by author. njackson@lbusd.k12.ca.us
> <mailto:njackson@lbusd.k12.ca.us>
>
> I find searching for fairy tales very difficult. Sometimes they are
> under the title, illustrator, or compiler. I think if you added
> geographic area to the mix it would really be hard to find all your
> copies of a particular tale.
> dbalsam@pen.k12.va.us <mailto:dbalsam@pen.k12.va.us>
>
> It should be by author last name, that way it will confirm to the
> public
> library collection and to established practice--but of course you can
> always do what you thinks works best for your school and kids
> Annamarie Lavieri Blakely School Librarian Bainbridge Is. WA
>
>
> I say author's last name. It is consistent with how the rest of
> nonfiction is catalogued. Also, some stories may have originated in
> French Canada, for example, but then retold by the Creoles in Lousiana.
> What region would it then be cataloged under?
> lrobe.ri.wfb@wfbschools.com
>
>
> IMHO, we have the authority and responsibility to use cataloging in
> such a
> way that it will provide the best access to information for our
> particular
> patrons. I have made choices like this many times for my own library
> collections. One caveat, though. I only advocate this kind of thing if
> you
> have a stand-alone catalog, and are not sharing records with other
> libraries
> in your district, because this kind of thing really screws up shared
> cataloging. Assuming that you don't, I would choose to sort them by
> region,
> if that is how you and your patrons tend to look for them. So, the call
> number might be something like 398.2 INDIA, or however you determine
> what
> regional notation makes the best sense. lsmith@ohsd.net
> <mailto:lsmith@ohsd.net>
>
> What an interesting question.
> I have the same situation with several shelves of folktales that are
> organized by author. Outside of the Kellogg books, the kids never seem
> to be able to find what they want. They seem to be asking for tales by
> title and frequently don't have time to stand in line for a few seconds
> use of the OPAC (that's a separate issue!) Anyway, I am always
> interested in changes I can do to make the library more "user
> friendly."
> zswenson@grandecom.net
>
>
>
>
> And so, after all this I'll take the advice of regional groupings. I
> am a
> lumnper at heart, encouraging quick browsing in broad continental
> categories.
>
> Craig Seasholes
> Happy Medium School Library
> 620 20th Ave S Seattle, WA 98144
> email: library@happymedium.org
> http://www.happymedium.org/Library/libraryhomepage.htm
>
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