My thoughts - which may not be the majority opinion (my thoughts rarely are
:) )
daily interaction with mentors - especially non verbal interaction
daily interaction with peers - over coffee - with knockdown discussions
the amazement that occurs when a student discusses something and you get
many peers knocking each other over to respond at the same moment - the
passion that occurs, for example:
I remember one instance at Columbia in a Research Methods class when a
male student from Saudia Arabia was discussing his proposed thesis: a study
of the public library system in Saudia Arabia. The students in the course
were to bombard each student with questions concerning his/her research "to
provide rigor" to the study. I couldn't think of a question - except a
stupid one (I thought) which was "define public library." This lead to an
impassioned 3 hour discussion on the word "public" and we discovered that
the student's definition was not our definition or, in fact, Columbia's
definition. Public, to the student, was defined as male only. The
discussion could have been had, probably, online but I, for one, would have
missed the angry tones, the nodding heads, the leaping out of seats, and the
passion that resulted. That was in 1980 and I remember every action that
occured - even today.
Allan
Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo
Bishop Kearney High School Library
125 Kings Highway South
Rochester, New York 14617
585-325-4000 x231
585-342-4694 (FAX)
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Education in the tradition of the Christian Brothers
FAC OMNIA BENE (Do all things well)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alicia Duell" <aduell@NJIS.OR.ID>
To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: HIT: Online Doctoral Program
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I was immediately interested in the idea of an online doctoral program
> (I received my MLIS through an online program-- UIUC), but feared that
> it was too good to be true-- an idea confirmed by Allan's logical
> message below. Would anyone care to describe a little bit more about
> the importance of being on campus for doctoral degrees? It totally
> makes sense, but I was just wondering if anyone had any more examples of
> why being on campus is essential to a good program.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> A doctorally-curious MLIS,
>
> Alicia Duell
> Library Media Specialist
> North Jakarta International School
> Jakarta, Indonesia
> aduell@njis.or.id
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: School Library Media & Network Communications
> [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:24 AM
> To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: HIT: Online Doctoral Program
>
>
> I don't want to start an hornet's nest of chat - BUT, I can't imagine
> any Doctoral program worthy of its name that was online. So much of my
> program depended on the daily interaction between professors and
> students - and, yes, I know there is email and virtual learning, etc.
> However, I stick my by belief. I don't believe I would be the person I
> am today without Professor Jane Anne Hannigan and Professor Kay E.
> Vandergrift.
>
> Allan
> Columbia School of Library Service, 1988 (YEAH)
>
>
> Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo
> Bishop Kearney High School Library
> 125 Kings Highway South
> Rochester, New York 14617
>
> 585-325-4000 x231
> 585-342-4694 (FAX)
>
> library@bkhs.org
>
> Education in the tradition of the Christian Brothers
> FAC OMNIA BENE (Do all things well)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dawn Foskin-Carlyon" <carlyond@JENNINGSK12.NET>
> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: HIT: Online Doctoral Program
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> > I was excited to see that the U of I Champagne-Urbana had an online
> > doctoral program, but when I went to check the info on the website I
> > saw this....
> >
> > "Doctoral students in GSLIS are required to be in residence for two
> > full years of the program. In addition to taking classes and carrying
> > out individual research projects, all students are expected to attend
> > talks, meet with international visitors, and participate in
> > GSLIS-sponsored
> events."
> >
> > Too good to be true I suppose.
> >
> > Dawn Foskin-Carlyon
> > LMS
> > Northview Elementary / Gary Gore Elementary
> > Jennings School District
> > St. Louis, Mo.
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