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Librarian Folk, It's been interesting to me to read through this thread, and just thought I'd toss a comment or two out as well. I work at a therapeutic boarding school with a wilderness component, so most of our staff wear things they can go hiking in. (Most have to do so on a daily basis.) We do have a school on-site as well as being a therapeutic program. It's a small organization, so I am not only the librarian, but the academic and clinical secretary as well. It's a very interesting job, and I really enjoy working with the kids here. It's interesting that jeans, etc., are not an issue here, due to the need to wear proper outdoor attire, but cleavage, tight clothes, or low-rider pants are not acceptable, due to the problems of a sexual nature that some of our students have. This is the same for the kids. If they are wearing clothing that is ripped, ill-fitting (too tight or falling off), low-cut, or tiny, it is sent home to their parents, no questions asked. It's actually kind of nice to see students progress as they go through our program here when they actually get embarassed for some of the newer students who haven't yet figured out the dress code. They still dress in a trendy fashion and they have lots of individuality, but the students themselves start to regulate the fashions and tell each other that they don't really want to see thongs, cleavage, boxers, etc. (They do this up at the dorm--if it makes it down to the main building, it is confiscated during the school day.) Even though the adult dress isn't "professional" by business standards, students recognize quickly that they need to respect staff--even those that look young. Most of these students have arrived with some sort of oppositional defiance or lack of respect for those in authority. I think that it is good for them to recognize that authority figures are still in authority, whether they are in a suit or in jeans. This is especially important, because many students have major issues with their own parents, who they see in all modes of dress. I realize that this is a unique situation, but I don't really think the clothes make the teacher. This is, of course, to be taken with a grain of salt, because our organization does not accept (and I agree with them) the revealing clothing mentioned above, nor do the supervisors respond well to old, torn, dirty, or extremely sloppy clothes on the staff members. I also have one final comment to make regarding many of the posts I have seen referring to "young teachers." I was one last year (I taught in public school--high school English--as a first-year teacher), and keeping the dress code was sometimes hard for me. The reason for this was that I had just graduated, was planning a wedding (and spending money on it), and was trying to get by on a first-year teacher salary. My clothes from college were not exactly of the highest caliber (many of my friends would even wear pajamas to class), and I didn't have a lot of extra cash to spend. If I couldn't find something at Goodwill or VERY on sale in a store, I couldn't get it. The dress code at the school did not allow for t-shirts or jeans, and although I made it without wearing jeans, the only reason I made it with tops was that I had an extensive cardigan collection inherited from my grandmothers (which would cover up the t-shirts). I agree with the postings that frowned upon those who wore revealing clothing--after all, do you really want high school boys hitting on you? But, give a little grace to those who still haven't quite removed themselves from "college mode" (a subtle hint could help them out) or who simply can't afford to replace a wardrobe--I know that I welcomed the offer from another teacher who gave me some of her old clothes, as it helped to stretch my clothing options. Just thought I'd throw that out to the discussion. Sarah ===== Sarah Milligan, Librarian Summit Preparatory School Kalispell, MT hermia_mnd@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-