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I should probably have mentioned that my inforamtion about computer parts and quality control and pricing came from two sources, both former students. One works for Intel (chip maker), the other for Compaq/HP (originally assembly of computers, now repair/service). I can't speak for AMD (makers of Athlon chips), but the practice seems to be relatively widespread in the computer industry. I know from personal experience in my old district that Gateway's quality has declined dramatically. At least half of the computers delivered last year failed in the first six months. Last year, the rate was about 35%. The original shipments 4 years ago had a very low failure rate, on the order of 10% in the first year, in hard daily use. Mark Williams Consulting Librarian Professional Services for Conferences, Districts, Workshops markwilliams@makaw.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The closest thing you will find to an orderly universe is a good library" -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------