Here's what I have received so far. This has been a lot of fun meeting you
and compiling all of your e-mails. I think I've become a TARGET/HIT addict
after this experience. :o) ~Shaye
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We had Michelle Green, author of A Strong Right Arm. She shows up wearing a
baseball uniform and is just great. She has a rapport with students like the
best teacher you ever saw. She's an African-American author and is in the
Washington, DC area. Fortunately for me, others at my school arranged the
visit, so I am not aware of cost, etc. Where I taught in a previous life,
the principal did not allow author visits. Reason: They took away time from
teaching-to-the-test for the yearly achievement tests. Other principals
insist on having an author visit. Go figure. Like anything else, they can
be really good or really bad. I don't think I would have one without a
recommendation from another school that has had the author. Some well-known
authors are not good speakers.
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Hi, I'm a new librarian stepping in to a position at an elementary school
where there have been author visits every year. They are paid for by the
PTO organization, and try to stay under $1000. From what I have heard the
children LOVE them. They have tried to schedule a lot of
author/illustrators that demonstrate drawing talents and leave the artwork
hanging in the library. I started in January, the author visit was in
December, and I still have books on a waitlist by the author that visited.
Really generates a following among the students. Based on what I hear, this
is a valuable addition to the curriculum. Yes, I've also heard about the
work involved, but still I think the benefits outweigh the hardship. Just my
2cents!
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I have worked in 2 different K-5 schools. Both schools had an author visit
once a year. The library budget did not pay for this event, the PTO did.
The PTO also did the majority of the work involved. Last year we had Gordon
Korman come to our school. I believe his fee was around $1000. Then the
PTO had a small luncheon in his honor, inviting the administration, media
specialist, reading specialist and a couple of PTO moms.
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Funny you should mention this since we are having an author tomorrow. As a
first year media specialist, I found that this was quite a process. I have
been in communication with this author via e-mail since the summer. At
first the author told us that he would be traveling by RV and would not need
a hotel so we of course planned accordingly. Now he tells us that he needs
a hotel after all(we only found this out last week). Luckily I found a
hotel nearby. I had to order books written by the author at the request of
my principal and the head reading coach. A month or two ago I ordered class
sets of three titles and extra books to be used as incentives and prayed
that they would reach in time (they did--one title is back ordered).
Hopefully the author will autograph some of them for the students. My
weekend schedule included, sending an e-mail with driving directions.
Purchasing a microphone (couldn't get the one at school to work and didn't
want to take the chance)ordering and picking up bagels and juice for the
faculty and staff. Making welcome signage (banners, his books, on
display,etc.). Arranging chairs to accommodate 3 classes. Making certain
the equipment he requested is working and ready. In the midst of all of
this I was a 1/2 late to a support staff meeting in the principals office.
This e-mail does not begin to tell you the amount of work involved. Let's
hope he is worth it!
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I am also currently working on my MLS degree but have taught as a K-6
reading specialist for 19 years and in that time have been involved with
several author visits. My experience has shown that, usually, the more you
pay, the better the quality, but even that is no guarantee. The last
experience was with Mike Thaler. We thought he would be great but the
experience was not a positive one. We decided to have him come to all
elementary schools in the district (we have 7) and share the costs, since I
believe we had to cover all expenses including travel, housing, and food.
As we got further into the process, we found additional demands which we had
not known about up front, such as each school was supposed to buy a
director's chair for him to decorate and leave in the library, each school
had to have a certain type of chart tablets and markers available for the
presentations, etc., all of which added to the costs. The principals were
NOT happy. Even the visit itself was not exactly positive, since he was
quite particular about the type of accommodations, restaurants, etc. Over
the years I have had experience with scheduling approximately 6 visiting
authors, and have seen many more in other schools. Only a handful were able
to address all age levels adequately and most simply described their own
experiences. The best actually work with students in a type of workshop
setting. My advice would be to ask for a list of other schools where the
author(s) you are considering has/have appeared and ask for their
impressions before scheduling the visit. I hope this helps.
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I find author visits to be a fantastic experience for our children. Writing
is one of our school improvement goals at my school, and bringing in an
author helps to encourage and show the power of writing. I've been a LMS
for six years and had about seven different author visits. Funding varies
from year to year whether it be PTO, book fair funds, grants, etc., but I
work hard to try and find a way to make it happen. I have never had a bad
experience with an author. But, I do my research before I invite one to
attend. I talk to people who have listen to them speak before, or try to
invite authors/illustrators that I've heard speak. It is too much money to
spend for it to be a bad experience. Hope that helps.
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I haven't had an author visit since I started my job as SLMS because of the
work involved and I was attending both library school and going the
alternate route to certification. I was a bit overwhelmed. I am just now
beginning to revisit the idea because I am lucky enough to have the home and
school association fund it.
Prior to taking this job, I was the library aide to the librarian I
replaced. She was an old hand at author visits but also gave much of the
responsibility over to a volunteer from home and school and her aide (me).
Most of her visits were successful. She had Jose Aruego (wonderful), the
late David Wisniewski (also wonderful), Roxie Munro and her husband, very
good, Floyd Cooper (excellent) and David Adler (not as good as earlier
visits, very dour and expensive).
Arranging for the book sale is the most time consuming as well as
preparation of the students about the author and his or her work. The art
teacher used to get involved in the prep. Your volunteer should coordinate
the sale of the books. We made order forms which were then processed by
class so that the books were in boxes by class when the author came to visit
and sign. So you have to have the room to store the books.
The publishers are pretty generous about the discount and waiting for
payment and accepting unsold books back. It is best to order from the
publisher as soon as you know your author and date and start the sale about
a month to six weeks before the visit. No matter how well planned your book
sale is, you will always have kids attempting to buy a book the day of the
visit. Most authors don't mind, but some are fussy about how many they sign.
Provide lunch for the author. We do it in the library and invite the
teachers in. We have always had them for the entire school day. They do
three presentations in the morning, lunch with teachers and sign in the
afternoon. One or two of the authors meet with the more artistic seventh and
eighth graders as well.
Dan Gutman has a page on his website with good advice for planning an author
visit. Penguin Putnam has pages as well. We dealt with them several times
and they were very helpful.
Authors such as Jon Scieszka, Kevin Henkes require long waiting lists, are
expensive but a guaranteed success as they are entertaining and the kids
know their books. Depending on the type of school you are, you need to have
an author with broad appeal across the grade levels. I am in K-8 so it has
been tricky which is why we veer towards author/ illustrators or
illustrators.
James Gelsey lives in our town. He writes the Scooby-do series. He came into
our school and met with students in grades 3, 4, and 5 and did a wonderful
mystery writing workshop which was entertaining, witty and a useful writing
lesson. It was an impromptu offer and we didn't sell his books, but they
spend no time gathering dust on the library shelf. I have no idea how much
he charges, but he was very good with the kids.
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I am the editor of Teacher Librarian Journal, and we are featuring this
topic in the June issue (to be mailed out in May) called Making An Author
Visit Your Best Good Time, by Alison Follos, a teacher-librarian in NY
state. She discussing choosing an author, making sure it's a good fit,
integrating into the curriculum, getting teachers onside, funding, and
followup. Hope this helps!
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I attended many author visits as a parent or interested observer long before
I decided to put one on at the school at which I am media director and I can
honestly say I've *never* been to a bad one. Perhaps the people in this area
are more experienced in putting them on (our public library juvenile dept.
director wrote a book on the topic, and the local college has a thriving
education dept. that does stuff like that, too, as well as one in a nearby
town that houses a museum of children's book illustration art and often
invites the illustrators to do presentations), but I can say that when I did
my very first one three years ago, I had never been directly involved in any
of the behind-the-scenes stuff before, but I used Sharron McElmeel's ABCs of
an Author/Illustrator Visit and our own Kathy East's book on that topic and
planned everything down to the last detail, and the visit went like it was
our hundredth and not our first. In fact, Rhonda, who has done many visits,
could not believe we'd never done one before. She was thoroughly amazed at
how smoothly everything went.
We've had two now, Rhonda Gowler Greene and Susan Wojciechowski, and are
planning a third for next year, and they have been big successes. I raise
the money to pay for them with a penny contest (see details at
http://www.ptotoday.com/0802newbiz.html - scroll to bottom article) and
various other small plans throughout the year (auctioning off donated items,
selling donated used books, banking left-over book fair and Book Booster
money, and so on) and plan and carry them out mostly single-handedly.
They work because I read and reread Sharron's and Kathy's books and follow
their excellent advice (I don't believe in reinventing the wheel, when I
know excellent wheelwrights!), I don't leave anything to chance, I plan way
ahead, I research the person I'm going to ask before even considering it and
make sure she or he will be a good fit for our school, I get the teachers
and kids excited and involved before the visitor comes, and I make sure that
we have the money in hand before starting to plan.
As for the money, we usually have between $500-600 to spend, so we have to
ask people who are from the area (Rhonda is from MI) or who for some reason
or other are going to be in our area already, so we don't have to pay travel
expenses (Susan and I had been e-mailing about the possibility of her coming
here when she told me she was coming through our area to get to another
school. For the price of a meal and a hotel room -donated- and her
honorarium, we had her come on very short notice and it worked out great.).
There are quite a few wonderful people who live near us that we haven't had
come yet, and people coming often for the library and the colleges with
whom we can possibly piggy-back a visit (another way to save money), so
we're pretty set for a while. I wish we had more money for this at times -
Aliki offered to come to us for only the price of her airfare from Philly
when she's there visiting family, plus her honorarium... cheaper by far than
flying her here from England, but still way too much for our small budget -
but am thankful that the principal I currently have thinks it is worthwhile
to spend money on such visits. Our former principal did not.
However, in the end it's not the amount that you spend on a visit, it's the
enthusiasm and professionalism of the visitor and the quality of your own
advance planning that make a great visit. Buy Sharron's book (and Kathy's,
too - you can never know too much when planning a visit!), read it cover to
cover, and then try inviting someone - you're probably enjoy it just as much
as the kids, if not more.
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I am passionate about connecting kids with authors and illustrators and have
at least two visiting book people at my school each year. I'm so passionate
that I've written a book about it:
TERRIFIC CONNECTIONS WITH AUTHORS, ILLLUSTRATORS, AND STORYTELLERS : REAL
SPACE AND VIRTUAL LINKS by Toni Buzzeo and Jane Kurtz (Libraries Unlimited
1999).
I have also devoted a good portion of my website to supporting meaningful
author and illustrator connections. You can visit at www.tonibuzzeo.com.
You'll find nuts and bolts help on my website as well as reasons to host
authors. And in my book, you'll also find ideas for raising money to
sponsor visits in your school.
It IS a tremendous amount of work, but goodness, plan on one, two or three
days, not just one HOUR!! Author fees range from a low of $500 for a local
and relatively new author to $5000 for a Newbery or Caldecott winner. Many
authors are in the $1000-12000 range (plus expenses).
If literacy is one of (or is) our primary focus, then what better way to
lead kids to the books and authors who will personally connect them with
story? As one of my teachers said, "Author visits are one of the most
important things you do in your job!"
As a visiting author myself, I see the positive effects of author
connections throughout the year from both sides and it's all good!!
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I'm at an international school so my situation is somewhat different to
being in the states. We try our best to have an author come at least every
other year. Usually we can combine the visit with other international
schools or conferences in Asia (helps with airline expenses).
Two years ago we have Linda Sue Park (the year she won the Newbery). She was
a wonderful experience for us. She was a good speaker and since she is
Korean-American she was able to relate extremely well with our student
population (ours is about 45% ethnically Korean.) We paid a portion of her
airfare, provided guest housing, meals and a daily stipend---much below her
regular fee as she wanted very much to come to Asia. She gave 3
presentations each day.
This year we were fortunate to have Diane Stanley come in March. She was
coming from a 2 week trip in China so we only had to pay her airfare from
China to Seoul. She has written numerous children's, and young adult level
books--primarily historical biographies such as <Peter the Great> <Leonardo>
etc. She also is a wonderful illustrator---extremely detailed and rich
images. Again, her stipend was much less than she receives in the states due
to her interest in coming to Korea. We also provided guest housing---most
meals and her airfare from China. She was a very effective speaker to a wide
group of students---from kindergarten to high school. Due to an unexpected
snowday, she was gracious enough to speak to additional classes to make up
for the lost day. In middle and high school, she focused her talks on
writing and illustrating books as a career---how she came to this field, how
she writes and puts together a book, the editorial cycle, etc. Terrific.
These two have been wonderful experiences for our students.
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I try to bring one visiting author in to my school each year. It's important
for the kids to meet someone who writes books for a living. However, if I
had to pay for the visits out of my library budget, I wouldn't be able to
afford to do so. The past two years, for example, I have had no money for
new books. I'm lucky in that the PTO has sponsored our author visits, which
have ranged in cost from $1,000 to $2,000. When I book author, I book them
to make at least four full-period presentations (45 minutes) in front of 100
kids in each presentation. I also ask them to have lunch with a small group
of pre-selected students who are interested in writing. And the last author
I had agreed to visit an English class during his last period in our school.
As you can see, I try to get my money's worth!
Before bringing in an author, get as much feedback as you can from other
schools. You don't want to spend a lot of money on someone who won't relate
well to kids. I've been lucky in that two of my three author visits have
been excellent with the kids. The other was just so-so. Before I came to
this school, Avi came for an author visit and I heard he wasn't that great.
As a result, the PTO has refused to fund him again. The PTO is only willing
to spend a lot of money if the author will get a chance to talk before a lot
of kids. We have 900 kids in our school, and the 7th grade English teachers
bring in an author each year who has written a book that's in their
curriculum. As a result, I gear my author visits toward the 8th graders.
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I worked at HarperCollins for 14 years doing, among other things, author
visits in schools and libraries, and I am now handling author appearances on
a freelance basis. I have not had any bad experiences with any of the
authors on my list, and would tell you if I did. I also invite you to pick
my brain about others who may not be on my list as sometimes I know about
specific authors. Please feel free to visit my website --
www.balkinbuddies.com -- for a list of my authors and for information about
setting them up. Click on "Arranging an appearances" for tons of
information. And feel free to ask the LM_Netters what they know about me
and my authors. Also, just some quick advise, before you agree to have an
author come to your school, ask for a reference from a school where that
author has been. It's easy to provide a phone number or two. Publishers
aren't much help in this regard, but authors themselves are, as are people
like me. There are a few of us freelancers out there who do this for a
living and are much more accessible than publishers.
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My school is lucky to have an active, money-raising P.T.O. who values
reading and the import of visiting authors on the reading and writing habits
of our students. Each year we have from one to two authors and/or
illustrators who make presentations to our grade levels one through 5. In
early February Gordon Korman visited third through fifth grades and in April
Eric Kimmel will visit first through fifth grades. These are somewhat big
names, but we've also had virtually unknown authors in the Chicagoland area
visit (and charge relatively minimum rates) with great success.
The key to inviting the authors is that you or some teachers have actually
seen the author present to kids or have super-high reports of their success
in presentations. There's nothing worse that having someone who doesn't
react well with the age levels in the audience. The best scenario is for the
students to be familiar with the author's work by reading (or be read to by
the classroom teacher) some of his/her books before the visit. They will be
attentive at assemblies and ask the author good questions at the end of the
presentation. I like the classes to do something together to have ownership
of the event so that excitement is built - and respect for the importance of
the visitor.
We also send out pre-order forms so kids can have books they've paid for and
ordered to be autographed by the visiting author. We charge retail price,
order from the publisher directly (35-40% discount), and pocket the
difference to give back to the PTO to help cover the additional expenses of
travel, food, and hotel.
Hope some of this helps. As long as the PTO has funds, I'd be willing to pay
up to 2500 for an outstanding author/presenter. Unfortunately, that sum is
very high for most schools. Also, I've noticed that each author's fees
continue to increase - each year. As one said to me, consultants in business
easily earn much more per day. Guess that's true but it's still nice to know
that local authors will negotiate a little more if they are made aware of
the financial background of the school involved.
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I have had dozens of author/illustrator visits and all have been very
positive experiences and very beneficial for our students. Preparation is
indeed a lot of work -- but it is all work that we, I believe, should be
doing to build a literacy environment in any case. The author visit just
lends frosting to the cake. The writers I have had definitely inspire
readers and I find their influence lingers for several years.
Too many of my colleagues, IMHO, spend too much time with the arrangements
and not enough time focusing on the literature and what they are left with
is all the arrangement work and little in the way of having had a lot of fun
with the author/illustrator's work.
If you really want some good help in knowing just when and how to arrange an
author visit you might be interested in ABC's of an AUTHOR/ILLUSTRATOR
VISIT. I found it at the Linworth booth at an AASL meeting a couple years
ago so I would think it is still available. It's got a lot of very
practical suggestions and provides a checklist and so forth. Not a lot of
philosophical stuff to wade through but very practical and to the point.
Great checklists and ideas. Also a lot of side anecdotes from both sides of
the fence in terms of things that are good and things that go awry.
The author of that book, Sharon McElmeel has started a service to schools
and libraries (costs schools and libraries nothing for the service) to book
authors. It's great as they will make all the arrangements, send photo
master, bookmark masters, information about ordering books -- anything you
might need and if they haven't thought of it and you want something just ask
and they will send it. The site for that service is
http://www.mcelmeel.com/bookauthor. I've used them twice now and both times
the author visit has been so easy to arrange -- and I was able to spend my
time collaborating with teachers, actually working on the literacy angle of
the visit.
Our Parent group funds the visit each of the years and we do try to vary the
type of author illustrator visit. But in the past before I was in this
position with such a supportive and involved parent group our visits were
funded with a combination of grant money and budgeted funds. One year the
local newspaper contributed funds and we have gotten funds from the friends
of the public library by scheduling a session with the author in their
facility. One year we had an illustrator, Jeni Reeves, and that was
fantastic. I've had friends who have had Katie Davis and Janie Bynum and
said they are also wonderful. Other times we have had primary authors (often
there books lend much in the way of modeling for intermediate readers) and
authors for older readers. Our area (and the midwest where I was for a
dozen or so years prior) has had wonderful experiences with Jacqueline
Briggs Martin (Snowflake Bentley), Tanya Stone (non-fiction), Jane Kurtz
(Storyteller's Beads), Carol Gorman (Dork books) and many others.
In general look to spend around $1000 on the honorarium -- sometimes less
and sometimes a little more. Seldom more than $1500 which I would consider
high. Then there is transportation and hotel expenses.
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The visiting author experience IS a time-consuming adventure but one that
may make an enormous impact on the lives of your children, teachers,
parents, and administrators. There is a lot of work that goes into the
process but anything that is worthwhile usually takes time and work to be
successful.
I usually schedule two visiting authors a year and will pay between $1000 -
$2000 for each author's visit. The authors will usually give between 3-4
presentations during the day to my students AND I generally include a
"teacher-administrator" luncheon during that time with our visiting author
(I choose which teachers will be my guests at the luncheon). I normally
invite 2-3 teachers, the other librarians (3), all of the administrators (3)
and the headmaster to lunch in our library. The luncheon will generally
involve a take-out boxed lunch from a local deli (around $5 -$8 per person)
and this is also included in my expenses. I will also pay for any
additional expenses that are not included in the cost--sometimes an author
may visit for $1000 or so, but I will pay for their flight and hotel
accommodations, plus pick them up at the airport AND deliver them back to
the airport--personal car. I have also provided any visiting author with an
"evening with the librarians" dinner where I ask other librarians from local
schools to visit us at a local restraint for dinner with our author (this is
"Dutch-treat" for the other librarians, but I will pay for our librarians
and the author's meals). This allows other librarians to meet the author,
ask questions about performances, new books, etc., and make decisions about
whether this person might be someone that they'd like to host at their
schools. After the dinner, I usually contact the librarians by email and
ask if they would be interested in hosting this author again AND if so,
provide them with an offer of sharing the expenses of the next trip--some
authors will want to book 2-3 schools during the week which will allow for
some of the costs to be divided equally among the schools and provide the
author with a substantial income for his / her work.
My budget is large enough to allow for such adventures (something that I
have not been able to do in other schools because of cuts), so I take
advantage of the opportunity to not only introduce these wonderful
individuals to my students, faculty, administrators, and parents, but to
ALSO have the opportunity to meet them myself. This is a great networking
opportunity AND it provides you, as the library media specialist, with the
genuine ability to share your experiences with this author with students
later ---imagine booktalking a book by an author who visited three years
earlier! The ability to say something like..., "When I met -------, they
informed me that this book was inspired by real life experiences taken from
his local newspaper!" I have been able to do this with my students through
visits and conversations with authors such as Robert Cormier, Mel Glenn,
Mike Wimmer, Ted Arnold, Bill Wallace, etc. This makes not only the book
become more attractive to the students (because of the connection between
the librarian and the author) but also because of the experience that is
shared later when the student relates his or her impression of the work to
you or the classroom teacher.
I have not had a bad experience but I have had authors who are a bit more
demanding than others. The key to this is "flexibility". Imagine being the
author who must visit school after school and who does not demand some
things to be in place--such as lighting, space, respect for the delivery of
the presentation (noise, bells, interruptions), etc. I try to believe that
if I were in this person's place, I might also be a bit demanding when it
came to my time and my work. I also try to remember that I am in "the
South" which is a bit more relaxed when it comes to visits and
introductions. When I have authors from "up North," I often find that some
of my teachers (or others) find the informal conversations, reactions, etc.
of the authors a bit "abrasive." Again, I remind myself (and others from my
school) that we must consider regional differences when we ask others to
visit us. (Not that Texas is SO southern, but there is a significant
difference in attitudes about issues when we have personal conversations
between the authors and our teachers / administrators / librarians. I think
that it is actually a learning experience AND enjoy the perspectives that
these individuals bring to our environment. Most of the time, I find that
even with a difference in opinion, most of our teachers or administrators
later ask if we will host these authors again because they "really enjoyed
their visit." I believe the opportunity to share LIFE experiences with
others in different areas of the country allow us to realize that we are not
in isolation and we MUST remember that we share some of the same concerns at
this time in history.)
Overall, I would highly recommend an author visit for any school that can
afford one. In addition, I would contact others who have hosted an author
that you are interested in sharing with your students (as we often see on
LM_NET those who ask about visiting authors) to find out --off list--their
experiences. The opportunity to meet, understand, connect, and be inspired
by our contemporaries in literature is one of the most rewarding experiences
that a librarian can have. I look at this as a "selfish endeavor" because,
although I work hard at this process, I am also rewarded by it when I meet
those individuals who have written works that have made an impact in my
literary life or the lives of my students. ( It's no different than hosting
guests in your own home, staging a dramatic performance for parents,
scheduling a field trip, or anything else that involves planning. Your
parents will also be impressed with the fact that you are offering their
children the opportunity to learn about not only authors that they have read
but also learn about their work. For those aspiring young authors, this may
be the catalyst to a future profession. I have learned that many of my
students have been inspired by both my author visits AND my artist visits.)
If you have the opportunity to host an author....ask other librarians about
them, check your local library associations for "author consortium"
opportunities, contact area bookstores for new authors who'd like to visit
(they'd love to visit too), plan your event, check the LM_NET archives for
author visit strategies and ideas, review books that give you information
about how to host, be gracious, be flexible, be patient, be
inspiring.....ask your administrators for support, remind your teachers to
support your efforts by reading the author's books in class, promote the
event on your webpage, in fliers, and in person, and be willing to give your
time to make a good impression. The best gift for the school may be when an
author tells you, "I'd be happy to visit again, anytime!" (However, for the
librarian the best gift may be the most personal...to say that you KNOW this
author!)
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Thank you all for your posts on this topic!!!! You've been very helpful by
sharing your experiences--even the negative experiences are something for me
to build and grow from. My experiences with author visits (as a K-2
teacher) at my previous schools have never been great, but after all that
I've read and researched on-line, I know at least partly why. We often
didn't know about the author visit until the last minute--we never had a
year to prepare, to order extra books for lessons, to create welcome
banners, and to truly honor the author/illustrator. I've read about schools
who all created matching t-shirts to wear with the author's name on them for
the big visit. I read about another school who all created glasses out of
posterboard to wear during an authors talk so that they'd look like one of
the famous characters in her books. In addition, I've discovered how
quickly an author/illustrator can tell that the school DIDN'T prepare just
by the food preparation. This has turned into a major project for me. I've
learned so much about what authors expect and what they deem as a great
visit from their perspective. I'm hoping it will be of some use to any of
you who are considering an author visit.
I would love to share more research on this later--especially some solutions
for those of us with poorer schools who could never raise enough money from
a book fair to invite an author/illustrator. However, I feel that some
might need this HIT now so I'm sending what I've received, thus far. Thank
you, again, for sharing your experiences with me--with all of us!
Shaye Miller
Previously K-2 and reading lab teacher
Currently a SAHM completing an MLS degree
http://www.millermemo.com/babyfromthismoment.html
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