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I think I remember Carol Simpson saying something last year about there being a lawsuit (or people are gearing up for a lawsuit) against Turnitin.com because of this--submitting / taking students' works and placing them in the company databases without the students' permission, in order to check against past / future problems of plagiarism. However, I may have been dreaming this....<g> ~Shonda Brisco MS / US Librarian Trinity Valley School Fort Worth, TX briscos@trinityvalleyschool.org -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Barber Ray Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:49 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [LM_NET] Anti plagerism programs and copyright: a legal opinion A former staff member sposed the question below on the State Listserv, I passed it on the a lawyer for an answer and found the answer enlightening. ---------- Forwarded Message ----------- From: "Rogers Jack" <jarogers@penncharter.com> To: "Barber Ray" <rbarber@penncharter.com> Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:39:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Fw: Turnitin and Intellectual Property Ray I think that this wrong. From a legal standpoint, I think that students should be able to give a paper to a teacher with the expectation that it is not given to anyone else. JackOn Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:35:37 -0500, Barber Ray wrote > Jack, > > As a lawyer, what do you think of this? > > Ray > ---------- Forwarded Message ----------- > From: "Ramsey,Joseph" <Ramseyj@NPENN.ORG> > To: SCHOOLS@hslc.org > Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:31:42 -0500 > Subject: Turnitin and Intellectual Property > > I am going to open a can of worms. > > When using a plagiarism detection service such as Turnitin, student > papers are submitted to the service for comparison to other papers > already in the database, and these new papers are then themselves > added to the database for comparison with future submissions. (Do you > see where this is going? Does it make you queasy?) Have any of you > looked into the possible infringement of students' intellectual > property rights as a result of their work being given to a for-profit > business to become a part of that company's assets? (The company's > database of student papers is clearly one of the main assets that > allows them to make > money.) Have any of your districts or schools had their solicitors > look at this question? Anyone happen to know of guidance on this > issue from AASL or other organizations? > > Sorry to ask an ugly question! Thanks! > > Joe Ramsey > North Penn High School Library > North Penn School District > Lansdale PA > > This email has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs. > ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- > > Dr. Raymond W. Barber > Director of Libraries > The William Penn Charter School > 3000 West School House Lane > Philadelphia, PA. 19144 > rbarber@penncharter.com > 215-844-3460 x168 (office) > 215-850-6678 (cell) > 215-844-5537 (fax) > 215-843-4024 (home) ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- Dr. Raymond W. Barber Director of Libraries The William Penn Charter School 3000 West School House Lane Philadelphia, PA. 19144 rbarber@penncharter.com 215-844-3460 x168 (office) 215-850-6678 (cell) 215-844-5537 (fax) 215-843-4024 (home) This email has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------