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A couple of weeks ago I have sent the LM_net group the following message: "Hello LM_netters from around the world, Do you know the book "Decameron" by Boccaccio? If the answer is yes: Do you think an eighth grader, who is interested in reading one of the stories there, should be given to read the story? This 8th grader hates reading, and this might be a way to get him interested in books. Let me note that passion is one strong motif in the "Decameron"; So there lies my moral predicament" One can divide the responses received into three main categories: The pro group included those who favored giving the patron his demand; The censor group which included those who were convinced not to give the patron the aforementioned story; And, finally, the commencing group which included those librarians/people who donated me criteria to help me decide by myself how to act. This division is artificially made for the sake of managing the info received. All in all, I am deeply thankful to all people from all the 3 categories; Your input was great, fascinating and has created learning for me. Thanks for respecting my predicament and responding to it. Here follows a summary of the replies received: Category 1: The Pro group. 1. Dawn M. Sardes , a Teen Services Librarian from Euclid Public Library in Ohio, contributed the following: " I read it in 7th grade, as I had read The Canturbury tales in 6th and had heard that Chaucer had based his work on Decameron. It didn't destroy my life in any way that I can see. What's wrong with passion? Nobody is more passionate than a teenager". -- I agree Dawn: There is nothing wrong with passion. Thanks for your brave stand. 2. Paula, wherefrom I don’t know, had contributed the following: "Your e-mail brought back memories that I thought I would share with you. As a young girl in grade four and living in Akko, Israel, I remember reading 1001 Arabian Night which I had gotten from the school's meager library. It was a version not commonly available for children, being very explicit and graphic. I was captivated, and mesmerized. Never before had I read a book like that - a far cry from Kishon's funny commentary on life in Israel, or Rachel's patriotic poetry. Needless to say, I have been an avid reader ever since, always wondering what magic I will find inside the covers of a book. So giving an eighth grader a story from _Decameron_ would probably not harm him, and may inspire him to read more and varied material." I must say, your reply, Paula, was most exciting and most interesting and mysterious. Thanks a lot. 3. Brenda Kahn, a School Library Media Specialist from Haworth Public School (k-8) New Jersey added: I read it in college. It is wonderful but difficult. I wouldn't buy it for my school library but I would tell an eighth grader to go for it if they showed an interest, even if it was for the "dirty parts." Thanks for the input, Brenda. Category 2: The Censors 1. (I have put this comment in the censor group because there is some element of censorship in it). Judy Crook, a librarian from Grand Valley High School in Parachute, Colorado corroborated: " As long as you pick the story, it would be okay. In the U.S., this book is studied in college because so many of the stories are not for kids. I haven't read it for awhile, but it seems as though some of the stories might be okay". Thanks Judy. I appreciate your input 2. Paula N. Tetirick, a Library Media Specialist from Jennie Rogers Elementary School, Kentucky, added the following: " I'd say, basically, it's not appropriate. But you know that if that person wants to, you will not be able to stop him from getting a copy. Thanks Paula. I appreciate your investing thought and time on my predicament. 3. Dianne Anderson replied: My son read this as a freshman in college and thought it was baudy ( A little bit sexy but not overly so). You might rather look at the Canterbury Tales. Thanks Dianne. I appreciate your input. Category 3: The commencing group: Giving me criteria to judge the situation and independently decide: 1. Lynley Mckernan replied: I work in the library of a large Catholic school in Perth, WA. We have to take care to balance the student's right to information and literature with the expectations of the parents and the religious community that founded the school over a century ago, and continues to be part of the life of the College. When one of our Year 12 students requested a copy of the Decameron be added to the collection last year we considered the suggestion and declined, as we felt that there have been a lot of other stories written since the Decameron that would interest the students without causing such a disturbance among their parents. Also, if any student particularly wanted access to the novel, they could download a copy from one of several internet sites, without involving the library in any unpleasantness with the parents of other students. It is possible but unlikely that at some point students studying literature subjects or advanced Italian may need to have copies of some of the stories as part of their class work, to get studied under the guidance of their teacher, but for us, that is different from making what is still a controversial text freely available to impressionable young men, when that is not the expectation of their parents or community. - and this is not even a very conservative college, as they go. As an adult, I suppose I can say that some of the stories are quite funny in their way, but they do seem more about lust than anything else, and I didn't ever make it to the second volume. When our younger students want materials that have been specifically tagged as being for senior students, I have often asked the parent involved for their opinion and permission. We recognise them as the first educators of their children, and they mostly are happy to be involved. The internet sites for full text (in English) follow. I suppose there might be a Hebrew version around, but I have not seen one. The introduction, describing the Black Death striking Florence, can be found at http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/boccacio2.html The text of volume one and volume two can be downloaded from Project Gutenberg The Decameron, Volume I by Giovanni Boccaccio - www.gutenberg.org/etext/3726 The Decameron, Volume II by Giovanni Boccaccio - www.gutenberg.org/etext/13102 Much obliged for your reply, Lynely. 4. An one MLS Grad Student , Lydia Lansberry, wrote: I have recently joined the LM Net, but I thought that your question was an interesting one. I recently re-read the Decameron for some undergrad work and its pretty interesting. I would base your decision on the maturity of your eighth grader. If you feel that he could handle the content, then encourage him to read what he is interested in. Also, you could choose certain stories that might be better than others for him to read. Some of them are better than others. Thanks Lydia. 5. Marsha Redd, Librarian at Kelloggsville High School Grand Rapids, Missouri added: " If this is a student who doesn't like to read, The Decameron seems like a pretty tall order for an eigth grader. I read it in college. Don't remember much about it, so I can't comment on the content so much. I don't remember it being any more questionable than Canterbury Tales. Could you just photo copy one chapter and see how it goes?" That's what I will do. Thanks Marsha. 4. Linda Wilson, a library/teacher from Mckay High School in Oregon amplified: "Not just passion, but earthly passion is the subject. Would the child be reading a modern translation? Otherwise, I would be inclined to think it's not for reluctant readers. Perhaps, he's "heard" about this book on the student underground, and is interested in the salcious parts - normal for the age group. If he were a seious and mature student and a good reader, I might let him read it, but off the top of my head, I think not. Just my opinion. " Thanks for your great reply, Linda. Some super/expert-librarians, I wanted the opinion of, have just actually not read the book. This, perhaps, is an expression of the current culture which stresses more on the tech side of the librarian, stressing among other things, the mastery of knowing how to" fish" the material and less on the librarian's reading résumé or his level of depth in general knowledge. In conclusion, it is my opinion that it seems that even in the 21st century issues concerning sex and passion are still containing explosive materials. Different librarians react differently to this, and there is no clear consensus and/or clear guidelines. What I learnt about myself was that in the future I will be much more careful in advocating reading erotical/sexual materials for teens. This, I stress was a personal choice, relating to my personal life history, and life philosophy of staying away from trouble. However, I do think that in general, kids do need adult guidance in their sexual development. Be it parents or other socialization agents. What is the role a librarian should take? This is an open question for everyone of us. I think that adults tend to turn away and not take this obligation they have for youth. Personally, I excuse myself out by saying that I lack the capabilities needed to play such a role. Modesty is important here in my opinion. However, I keep my antennas up, and am sensitive th the teen's need, doing my best on the given situation. I was not aware of all these aspects when I raised my question at first. The answers I received opened to me a wide range of possibilities. It did confuse me and made my crisis even more difficult. Using on of the advises I received, I turned to the kid's father, who I am in friendly terms with, and asked his permission. He merely threw the ball right back to me, saying: " You are the librarian and you should know what's right and wrong. Don’t they teach you that in the library school?" In despair , I turned to the head of the library & Information department in College, Mrs. Zvulun. After I described to her the situation on the phone, and she asked me a few questions, she affirmatively suggested to me to do and give the abovementioned materials. Moreover she added that the more waves I create around the matter the worst it can turn. Hence, I gave the kid what he wanted. And the matter was externally closed. I decided not to initiate any interest in that kid's reading material anymore. However, If he will turn to me, I would be glad to suggest a book to him but not making the theme of reading sex or erotics. I think that I will continue to debate that question in my thoughts. Although I turned to my superior for rescue, it does not mean that her moral choice is the only right one to make just being superiorly ranked. Thanks everyone. Respectfully Ehud Ehud(Abie)Weiler A library & Information student Beit Berl College Israel ehudwe@actcom.co.il _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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