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Replies, cont.: "Perhaps you should have your committee look at some truly cutting edge research and possible paradigm shift as far as education is concerned. We just had a talk from Dr. Roberto Ibarra from the University of New Mexico. He is a proponent of the Multicontextual Theory of learning and he has written an interesting article about how academic libraries are at the forefront of this change. Coming from the state of Texas, Dr. Ibarra's research on diversity issues should resonate with your constituents. Don't let the architects make pedagoical decisions that the community will regret as soon as the building starts to be used. My son attended a newly built high school that did not have an auditorium and the space provided to take the place of the auditorium was so unsatisfactory. Also, the county decided to build the school on the cheap because they thought the school population would not get too big. The cafeteria space was too small from day one, and after the first year of operation, trailers were added because there was not enough classroom space. Hopefully you can get your parents on board for support. This will be a tough fight. I hope you let the listserv know how this all plays out. Good luck Below is a link to Dr. Ibarra's article about academic libraries. http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlevents/ibarra05.pdf This is another report geared to academic libraries, but you should be able to find some relevant information in this as well. Library as Place: Rethinking Roles, Rethinking Space http://www.clir.org/PUBS/reports/pub129/pub129.pdf This is an interesting brochure called Designing Spaces for effective learning: A guide to 21st century learning space design. Again this is for academic spaces, but you will notice that this does not eliminate the library as a learning space. www.jisc.ac.uk/uploaded_documents/ JISClearningspaces.pdf ROBERTO A. IBARRA is a practicing anthropologist and a nationally recognized expert on diversity/minority issues in higher education. He is the Special Assistant on Diversity Initiatives at the University of New Mexico, and a Senior Consultant with the Ibis Group, a diversity consulting firm in Waltham, MA. His current research interests focus on studying Latinos in higher education and developing models for changing academic organizational cultures. His latest book, Beyond Affirmative Action: Reframing the Context of Higher Education, (University of Wisconsin Press, 2001), uncovers a significant new design for understanding diversity that is becoming recognized as a paradigm shift for educational change. ------------------------------------------------------- Students can be encouraged to read books. But it does take the staff to help. I have been at my current school 6 years. The first year I was here circulation was about 1000 books. After working with the teachers, making the collection current we are on target to circulate 5000 items to a student body of 320 with a collection of 5000 items. 2/3 of the students have books checked out on any day. It took work and collaboration to get there. As for the Star Trek references. In the 1st season episode "Court Martial", Kirk was on trial for murder. His lawyer refused to use computers but "Cogley argues that books are where you can experience the law, not in a synthesized computer". In the end they proved that the computers were manipulated and provided bad data. Still one of my favorite episodes. --------------------- I think I have an article in my files about a school that did just this and found that the students went to the public library to get what they needed or brought print sources into school. Eventually the school had to create a library. If I can find it, I'll scan it and email it to you. [Let me know if you would like a copy of that wonderful article!] -------------------- The e-books that you are purchasing should count toward your books/student ratio. Also, whether the library is a traditional set up or not, students need to have available a place where they can go to work on projects, read for pleasure, etc. Whether that place is called a media center, a computer lab or a library seems somewhat irrelevant to me. What seems irresponsible is to build a building without such a space, and without an information specialist (librarian) to man it. Just because high school students don't tend to read as much fiction doesn't excuse us from our job of encouraging them to do so. I like your idea about paperback books & an arrangement with a bookstore, though. That might be part of a solution. Yes, universities are going digital, but they are not there yet. Nor, will they dispose of their collections once they get there (at least I doubt we will see that in our lifetimes). As to Star Trek, Captain Picard kept a small library of real books in his quarters and on at least one episode waxed eloquent about the pleasure of holding a real book in his hands. Also, ST is set in the 24th century. We aren't there yet. I hope you don't feel "raked over the coals." I think you certainly have some valid points, but I don't think you are on the same page as the architects & administrators of the school in question. Thanks for raising some interesting points to add to the discussion. ---------------- I am at a Technology H.S.. Every student has a computer, but we would not begin to think of doing away with the library. Good luck! ---------------- I cannot imagine a high school without a library either-but it depends on the library. I know of one high school where the kids don't check out fiction, and the teachers don't schedule classes for research. In the past, the librarian position had incorporated so many other collateral duties that the collection, programs, and funding received little attention or support, and the library devolved into a seldom used bookroom. I know of another extremely busy and greatly used high school library, where kids do check out and read fiction, and teachers not only constantly bring classes to the library for research, but also rely on the librarian to teach search strategies and assist both students and faculty with research. But it's not just high schools. I know also of a town that has a wonderful elementary library program which really promotes reading and life-long learning; and I know another town which has aides or clerks in all the lower grade campuses because, as one principal expressed it: "...you don't need a degree to check out books to little kids, and there's not much research that goes on at this level." You wouldn't think the concept of LIBRARY would be such a hard sell- go figure. Back to high school--this topic triggers another pet solution of mine-public library / high school library partnerships. So many resources duplicated; so little money in budgets.... I have attended workshops on this subject and have heard great ideas. The big stickler (just a wild guess here) is probably getting school boards and town councils to discuss and cooperate on a shared project. Yes, these libraries have to keep records of funds received and spent from different sources, but I think we could manage that. It is too bad that whenever a district proposes a new high school, or a city builds a new library or branch, that the educational and civic leaders don't at least pick up the phone and see where the other one stands in regard to future building plans-sometimes the timeframes are close enough to coincide...and a shared library facility is better than a discontinued one. --------------- I'm stunned at your situtation. Perhaps the question you need to raise with your superintendent this: If they don't build a library, which room do they plan to kick all the kids out of so that they can hold all of their meetings? ---------------- Darn, no one raked me over the coals. Y'all are getting real polite. I thank you. Now, regarding my post, I did receive several responses directly, mostly in agreement, however, one nice lady reminded me that students need to have a place they can go to work or read or gather, and that is typically a library, so to have no such place in a school would be irresponsible. I appreciate that insight and wholeheartedly agree! It reminded me of David Warlick's comment in one of his podcasts about the library becoming an Information Production Center, where kids go to find, synthesize, and produce information in print, video, audio, and digital formats--that if they do not have the opportunity to develop as effective communicators, their "voices" will simply not be heard. Now THAT would be a powerful argument for a library to use with architects and superintendents! Some comments bemoaned the use and quality of Internet/Web resources and I completely agree with that...but it wasn't the issue. I did specifically mention the purchase of online subscription database services. There is no question about the quality of such databases and their value as supreme research sources, and since higher education and corporations of all types use them more and more, there's a real need to teach students how to find, access, and use those resources appropriately. It seems to me that providing and teaching a variety of high-quality, information-rich databases will allow students to see far more dramatically the inferiority of free Internet/Web sources than if we persist in restricting them to a certain number or type of source. Like, how often do you suppose the boss is gonna say, "Joe, we need you to compile some information for the annual report, and we want you to use an encyclopedia and a newspaper, and only one website."? Finally, my comment about not seeing print reference resources on Star Trek: many referred to incidents in the various series' where books were read and appreciated, but I did say use of "a print _reference_ resource"--for reference they _always_ used "Computer." Even in the "Court Martial" episode that appears to glorify books over computers, it is the dilution and homogenization of _information_ put on the computer that is criticized (much as we lament the poor quality of info on the Web; I am reminded of a concern expressed on this listserv about including only text for periodical databases, ignoring the power of the accompanying pictures and graphics--certainly a consideration when choosing which database to subscribe to!). And, at the end of the episode, it's the skillful use of the _computer as a reference resource_ --not one of the law books piled up in Kirk's quarters--that helps to find the real culprit. I do love books--I have hundreds--and I love to read books; I use reference books when appropriate, but I sure do love the comprehensiveness and searchability of databases for most information needs! (I wonder if Lexis-Nexis had been digitized back in the late 60's, would Spock have convinced Cogley of the ease of searching L-N to find information rather than wade through his thousands of books? :-) ) So, my friends, I think I will continue believing that it is curriculum needs, student demographics, and facility arrangement & equipment that ought to determine the library and its resources. To convince others--like architects and superintendents--we need to offer some different arguments than the tired old refrains about the difficulty of "curling up with a good computer" or "not everything is on the Internet" or even "it's faster to find some info in a good reference book than on the Internet." We need strong arguments about finding and using information in a variety of useful, high-quality resources in several formats, about the need to teach information-seeking strategies for any kind of research requirement, and about the one person in the school who can bring curriculum, technology, and communication together...a certified teacher-librarian, whether s/he has a "normal" library or not. ---------------- Your superintendent and assistant are being feed a lot of bull. Several years ago a school district near us built a small high school library because they were told students would be doing everything from the classroom on the Internet. Two years later, the district had to remodel the high school and turn its small library into a full size high school library that could accommodate two classes plus walk-ins. It seemed the students and teachers needed a library and library professionals in order to be "the school of the future." Many of these students are children of Microsoft employees, so I guess "the school of the future" for Microsoft includes libraries. Our District is in the process of building a second high school and re-modeling our current high school. Both buildings will have large libraries that can accommodate 120 students in the main area of the library with 42 computers, and an attached full size library computer lab for the librarians to teach information literacy skills to students. While we were in the planning stages our staff visited over 20 new and remodeled high schools in our state and every one had a library. Some smaller and some larger than the school libraries we will build. I don't know of a single District in our state that has eliminated libraries from new or re-modeled schools. So, if your superintendent and assistant superintendent want to lose their jobs because they cost your District extra taxes to add on a library after the fact, then it's their funeral. Unfortunately, the children and parents of your District will have to deal with the fallout while the architects walk away with their fees. --------------------- I was thinking about it yesterday and I'll bet it would help if you got parents and teachers involved, too, if you don't already. Administrators need to be able to "safe face" about a bad decision so giving them evidence with research studies and then a few horrified phone calls to well-chosen board members might make a big difference... The concepts from the Partnerships for the 21st Century report should back you up well. ----------------------- I'm a little slow in responding to this, but you could sit down with the architects and ask them, just casually if they enjoy visiting their local Barnes and Noble or Borders when they have some free time. If so, why do they do this? Is it because they occasionally feel the need either for information (how to fix a toilet? What does Stephen Hawking have to say in his new book? Where does one go to buy stamps in Paris?) or feel the need to sit down with a good magazine or book? As others have said, delivery of information is not an "either/or" issue. Just because one has electronic information delivery, print resources do not necessarily become obsolete. They have their use (and I know you're completely in agreement-I'm just getting carried away) and are in fact useful. It's just so completely illogical to me-it's like a pharmacist saying at the introduction of acetaminophen "well I guess we don't need aspirin anymore." Wrong. Both meet needs. There are many schools whose model is to have the library at the center of the school. It is the place for information, reference resources, reading enrichment material, teacher support, etc. I know of some who have the library positioned as the literal hub of a wheel, with classrooms radiating out like spokes, all connected, all in touch with the helpful professional guide who knows how to find and cares about providing the best material for the students. Here are some webpages I've found useful. The last two are pdf files that will hopefully come through okay. I used them all in defense of my request to hire an additional librarian (I'm currently the only one in a preK-12 school with two libraries.) Anyway, here are the pages: http://www.asla.org.au/research/index.htm http://www.lrs.org/impact.asp http://www.nclis.gov/info/WHYCAREABOUTSCHOOLLIBRARIES.pdf http://librarypublishing.scholastic.com/content/stores/LibraryStore/pages/images/slw_06.pdf --------------- I once posited my thoughts on the library of the future and suggested that I could probably do away if 1/3 of my space and still have a great facility. I envisioned less books shelves, more student "production" areas and more computers. This thread is making me take an even closer analysis of what I do and what I have. We rarely have a situation where teachers "require" students to use print resources. Our online databases are superb, and with good instruction we are doing a good job of getting students to go there instead of simply using search engines. We've done away with allow of our "research" periodicals, but our periodical count remains the same, if not higher, with almost all high-interest magazines. Our fiction collection is completely paperback and we weed it constantly, replacing tattered books (the most read) and culling out old chestnuts. Now I'm thinking of going very radical and I've had a discussion with my colleague about weeding a third or more of our collection. Why are we keeping these books if NO ONE READS OR USES THEM? We tossed around the idea of putting in 8 to 10 sofas with coffee tables. Putting in a big student production area where groups can work together with supplies and computers readily available. Even getting a wireless transmitter so that students can bring their own laptops in. We also talked about the idea of getting more bookstore style shelving to highlight different high interest books in our collection, like our graphic novels. Ours is jam packed before school and during lunch. Our kids are great, there are study groups and students doing homework. Lots of kids checking out the latest magazines. And every computer is being used, even though we do not allow games or music (How Luddite!). Having no library in a high school is really a sad situation. It does seem to imply that there is no point of having a librarian either. I think the architects are missing the point. A library is more than just book shelves, and way more than just another computer lab! Just my thoughts. ----------------- I recently had a great experience that supports print: One of our super history teachers had created a unit on castles that used a web quest type format. It was a well thought out project and the students were getting guidance on how to find information on the sites they were directed to use via this abridged webquest. Unfortunately only her "A" day kids could get access to the library during the week that she wanted to do this. So I gathered a cart load of books [I have LOTS on castles!] and we decided that her 'B" Day kids would use the books first, and then come use the computers later. The"A" day students came into the library and did well with the webquest. They were on task and got some notes. They still spent an inordinate amount of time 'noodling' around but overall they were successful with what they did get. The next time they were to come into the library, I asked the teacher if she wanted me to get ready for them and she said that she was so impressed with the higher quality notes that her "B" day students were getting from the print materials, that she was not going to continue with the web quest. She's re-writing her plan to use only the books next time. They found more information, liked the pictures better and seemed to have a better sense of the 'big picture' using the books. One thing that has happened through the years at my school is the agreement by many teachers to have kids use print materials FIRST. After they have taken acceptable notes, created a 'keyword' list that they'll use for searching on the web [based on their encyclopedia research], then they can use the web. Whenever I am told of a project that is coming, I usually put a hot list together and some teachers only let kids go to those website, others let them go wherever they want, but always point out my hot list. The teachers who use this process have been much happier with the quality of their student notes. [I also suggested that no notes be allowed that have full sentences in them . If they use full sentences, they must put them in quotes and copy the page number from where they got them. - that's encouraged the teachers a lot!]. Getting 'in' on the project helps a lot. Most teachers have enjoyed the fruits of a print search first. Lindy Hutchison, Librarian Sweeny HS Library Sweeny, TX lhutchison@mail.sweeny.isd.esc4.net "Let us put our minds together and see what life we will make for our children." --Tatanka Iotanka (Sitting Bull) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------