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Nothing definitive about whether or not Patricia Cornwell gets paid for product placement, but... My original post: Delurking here to ask for a friend: A friend wrote me and said she felt as though PC was including the specific name of a very expensive hotel chain in her writing. She felt as though she was being sold something so she stopped reading the book. As she started another one this weekend she again was assailed by names of designer retail (Ralph Lauren, Hummer, etc) and once again felt like she was being sold something. The question is, does PC (or other authors, for that matter) sell space in her novels for advertising? You know, like when you see a Coke in a movie you know Coca Cola paid to have it there? Any ideas? Anne Berkey ****************************************************************** I'm not sure about Patricia Cornwell but there was a big scandal a few years ago when the author Fay Weldon was commissioned by the jeweler Bulgari to write a book called, I believe, The Bulgari Affair. There were articles about it in Publishers Weekly and Library Journal about it. Also, there was a similar discussion not too long ago on this list about how the series Gossip Girls promoted many products. Hope this helps. Nicole Sette ****************************************************************** I just Googled for product placement and novels and sure enough it is happening. Here is one link: http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7BC7B959C1-C8AC -4C0F-AAFA-F38FDD66CEE6%7D&siteid=google&dist= I am too busy to read new pop fiction right now, but that sounds very cheezy to me and I would be moved to write an author and complain. Ick. Maybe the readers are familiar with your signature quotation and are trying to live up/down to it! hahahahaha, mabell Dr. Mary Ann Bell Associate Professor, Library Science Sam Houston State University Huntsville, TX ****************************************************************** There was a fairly well-reported case a few years ago of a writer being paid to base her story on Bulgari jewelry: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/04/25/074744.php Here's another example: http://bookblog.libraryjournal.com/blog/2007/02/21/this-novel-is- brought-to-you-by-our-sponsor/ A number of authors have had auctions (sometimes for charity) in which people pay to have a character in the author's next book named after them. I wouldn't find it surprising if Cornwell is profiting from mentioning a specific hotel in her books. Cammie Backus ****************************************************************** The term is "product placement." If you go to Google and type in "product placement" books ... you'll get just under 900,000 hits. Graze through, and you'll see that it is a growing trend. Enough so, that books are being written about product placement in books! The Borg is out to get us! Lizz ****************************************************************** I see the branding and name dropping in the Jackie Collins and other escapist books. I'm not sure it has anything to do with getting kickbacks but is to get women to identify with the character's shopping habits. I remember reading an article with an interview with Danielle Steele. She spoke about how she never researched her books or necessarily visited the locales. Rather she gave that job to her college roommate who traveled the world at Danielle's expense. Danielle would give her a list and she had to supply the names of specific streets, hotels, restaurants, stores, etc. for books to be written. Jo Josephine Dervan, Library Media Specialist Strathmore School Aberdeen, NJ ****************************************************************** I've only read one of hers but did notice that (mentioning of names). Other authors do it, too, and I don't care for it , not sure why, but I think it dates the story and keeps it from being timeless - cheapening it in some way. I know I'm not answering your question - but glad to see others have noticed this. Gail Magnolia, AR ****************************************************************** Hmmmm....good question since we all know TV shows and movies do it...........I love your new verb----delurking.....I have read where some authors will take donations for charity and name a character after them....http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/22/ MNG2GERU4B1.DTL ****************************************************************** Yes, like when John Travolta smokes a Lucky Strike; in a flick I think it's called product plaement & they do get pd. for it. I'm unfamiliar with PC as I'm not a great fiction fan, but as for other authors, I can't think of an example like that in all the reading I've ever done. I'd think that ethical/successful authors would shun that like the plague in order to avoid readers slamming the book shut, like your friend. Larry "Library" Retzack, BA, MM, MA, Ph.D. candidate, Librarian-Media Teacher, Colton (CA) High School, 777 W Valley BLVD, Colton CA 92324-2251. ****************************************************************** I cannot say, for sure, if Cornwell is being paid for product placement or not. But, it could be a simple case of an author using products and the knowledge we have about certain models of cars, clothes, to paint a picture in the readers' minds of what type of backgraound/class that character has. For example, if I said: Susan got out of her hot, beat-up Ford, deciding to leave the windows open. After all, it's not like any self-respecting thief would bother with something that looked like her car. She headed into Wal-Mart to begin browing the clearance racks for a new skirt to wear to her interview the next day. Or Susan got out of her Lexus, deciding to leave the top down.. After all, the brightly uniformed doormen of the exclusive Rodeo Drive shops knew her well and would never let anyone touch it. She hopped into Louis Vuitton shop, intent upon coming out with the newest bag to impress her sisters with at their mother's funeral the next day. Big difference, huh? We already know the two Susans' income level, and something about their characters. Dawn Sardes Teen Services Librarian Euclid Public Library Euclid, OH ***************************************************************** I haven't heard of ads being sold in novels, but as a creative writer myself, I think that authors tend to write from their own perspective, and to add verisimilitude, they put in details of what they like, including brand names. For example, even in the old Ian Flemming novels about James Bond, it was clear that he preferred women's fingernails to be "short and unvanished," or at least varnished with clear nail polish. This was mentioned in so many of the novels I had to smile. It was, unfortunately, not a preference that made it to the movies. In the very popular Myron Bolitar novels, the main character has a marked preference for YooHoo cola. I think these touches make the novels and the characters seem more real. I would miss them if they were left out of a novel, and I don't think they make me want to use the product at all. It is not as subliminal or as subversive as the product placement in a movie. Linda Lucke Learning Center Director Butterfield School 1441 W. Lake Street Libertyville, IL 60048 ****************************************************************** Don't know, but as a writer, I can see that you might need the immediate mental picture the word Hummer or Rolex or The Ritz brings to mind... I hope she isn't. Don't we get hit with enough commercials already?? Betty Winslow, Media Center Director BGCA Bowling Green, OH ****************************************************************** ~a~ Anne Berkey Media Specialist Gamble Rogers Middle School St. Augustine, Florida anneb@aug.com "If I can't be a good example then I'll just have to be a horrible warning." -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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