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Since this thread is sort of one of those "access" issues, I would like to know how the rest of you are dealing with access to Web 2.0 applications? Our students all have in-house e-mail accounts, but in the past we've had policies barring student access to blogs, social networking sites, etc. (School policy that I follow, not my own policy that I developed). Our lab machines are also set up so that students cannot save bookmarks to the browsers or change settings. In the past year or two, I've noticed that much more "legitimate" information is getting published in blog form and there are many more very legitimately (for research) useful web applications such as social bookmarking (diggo or del.icio.us), etc. Are you changing your policies to allow kids more access? Have we been much more restrictive than the rest of you out there? How do you deal with COPA and your kids who are under the age of 13? dave Dave Wee, Librarian Harvard-Westlake Middle School 700 North Faring Road Los Angeles, California 90077 Phone -- (310) 288-3270 E-mail -- dwee @ hw dot com "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians." ~~ Monty Python ~~ -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Toni Koontz Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:50 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Computer lab caution Here ( 9-12 college preparatory - all boys) the punishment for having pornography - whether brought in or accessed - is the same - with, of course, the exception being that using a computer to access it will result in those privileges being revoked for one year : In-school suspension for first offense with parents called in to explain why. We seldom have any further offenses. Drug offenses entail a whole other set of consequences which include drug counseling. I have only had to revoke computer use 5 times in my 9 years here. - actually, the Dean of Students does the revoking and the student knows better than to come in and try to con me...and I have had no real problems for at least two. I will tell a student that he can't use the computers for a couple of weeks if he is messing with the settings and trying to download games as that ties up resources that others need to use. A repeat offense in that case results in detention which lowers conduct grade so that is rare, also. One thing - I know a lot of you are very busy and can't really monitor like you would like. I had to rethink my work pattern so I was near the computers more often so I could see what they were doing. And of course, I call them on things like switching between windows often and hunching over the monitor or turning it to the side. Toni Koontz Librarian St. Charles Preparatory School Columbus, Ohio akoontz@cdeducation.org Carpe Diem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Swist" <mswist@ASIJ.AC.JP> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Computer lab caution > Hello~ > > Please excuse this posting to the entire list, but I think this is an > activity on most of our radar screens. Jamie's posting makes me wonder if > the punishment in our schools for these on-line offenses more severe than > if the student had been caught with a Hustler Magazine? Are we setting up > a punishment system that treats internet violations like crack and print > violations [with material brought into school from the outside, obviously] > like cocaine? > > Best regards, > > Martin Swist > mswist@asij.ac.jp > Middle School LMS > Middle School XC Coach > The American School In Japan > 1-1-1 Nomizu, Chofu-shi, Tokyo > Majordomo, LM_NET Hospitality Committee > "The heart is a little to the left." (Rev.) William Sloane Coffin > > ________________________________ > > From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Jaime > Meadows > Sent: Thu 11/8/2007 8:52 AM > To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > Subject: [LM_NET] Computer lab caution > > > > Just a few minutes ago we caught a boy in the computer lab looking at > some severe por***ography- it was pretty graphic and disgusting. Kind > of what you would have expected from Hustler 20 years ago. Let's say it > was some sort of nasty. > > > > The way the kid got around the filters was that he had emailed the links > and pictures to himself and was opening the pictures from his email > account. This kind of thing could be passed around from kid to kid > quite easily via forwarding emails. > > > > Yet again, one more thing we need to be alert to and aware of ahead of > time. They are very creative about circumventing filters. > > > > The kid will most likely never be able to use the computers at school > again - and he is a freshman. There will be a consequence for him. > > > > Jaime Meadows > > LMS > > St. Helens HS > > St. Helens, OR > > jaimem@sthelens.k12.or.us > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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