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I got onto LM_NET just recently and may have missed an important part of the "man" discussion. However, one suggestion that I'd like to make is to substitute the word "people" for "man". The Technology (Industrial Arts) teachers have been doing this in their materials in NY state for at least a decade, and it seems to work well in just about every situation. Carolyn Gierke, Librarian Sweet Home HS, Amherst, NY cgierke@shs.k12,ny.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For more help see LM_NET On The Web: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=