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I am so excited to hear that young students are required to cite references within their work. I teach English 9 and have so many students that don't know what this is. I know that it was taught to them when they were in elementary school, but for some reason it seems to be skipped in middle school. I get students who only want to write creative first person stories over and over again with I think, I believe, etc. It takes the entire year for them to understand 3rd person let alone documentation of sources. They look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language. Ironically, many seem to do better in Spanish than in English. Why is that? I also have students complete book reports both orally and written. They must complete a bibliographic entry for each book as the year goes on. By the end of the year, they have 10 books on a very neat bib. page. Still I get students who can't alphabetize. Baby steps, I guess. Carma Roesch Blissfield High School Blissfield, MI randcroesch@comcast.net croesch@blissfield.k12.mi.us SBrisco wrote: > We actually require students to do parenthetical citations in the 4th and > 5th grade. The point is to prepare them for the 3-4 page research papers > that they will do in the 6th grade AND to get them into the practice of > citing other people's works that have been used to create their report. > > In the K-3rd grade, they create a bibliography page for anything that > they > write (1-2 pages) of simple research and if materials are used to do the > research. Rather than calling it a bibliography page, they called it a > "Thank You" page (to thank the authors of the books that they used to > help > write the reports). > > Personally, I don't think you can start too early with this simple > practice > of parenthical citations or bibliographies. We have so many problems > with > students who don't (or won't) cite works, I think it's important that we > train them early to remember to use proper citations and to follow these > rules when writing papers. Just keep it simple and add to the process > each > year as they progress through junior high and high school. > > ~Shonda Brisco > TVS MS / US Librarian > Fort Worth, TX > sbrisco021@charter.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Perry" <perocon@DIALMAINE.COM> > To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 6:04 AM > Subject: [LM_NET] Parenthetical documentation > > >> I'd like your thoughts on this. I see so many assignments that ask >> students to research information on "x", and write a one page report or >> do a poster, etc. and be sure to put it in your own words and include a >> Works Cited page. According to MLA format, shouldn't students also be >> required to include parenthetical documentation. They are not creating >> anything new. They are simply repeating someone else's work, albeit in >> their own words. We are a 6-8 school. Our 6th grade comes to us with >> little , if any, practice doing research and creating Works Cited >> pages, so we are starting at the beginning with them. Is it too much to >> expect them to be able to parenthetically document their reports? I >> appreciate any input you can share. >> >> Jane Perry >> Winslow Jr. High Library >> 10 Danielson St. >> Winslow, ME 04901 >> japerry@winslow.k12.me.us >> http://www.winslow-jhs.u52.k12.me.us/jperry/main.htm >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. >> To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu >> In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL >> 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. >> LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ >> Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ >> EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ >> LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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