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I believe, when a teacher says you cannot cite World Book or Wikipedia type sources, what they really are saying, is DO NOT even go look at them. Jean R. Jean Gustafson Teacher-Librarian Selah Jr. High Selah, WA 98942 jeangustafson@selah.k12.wa.us -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Kaun Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:55 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Why NOT Wikapedia Hi, Kristina. I'm not sure why a student or any researcher, using the information they got from Wikipedia would not cite it. This just drives me crazy. If the teacher or professor wants to restrict students use of Wikipedia or ensure that other resources are used to verify the information found there that doesn't absolve the researcher's obligation to cite the source no matter how inaccurate, in error, or whatever, that source is. The issue is not citation--it's use--and that has to be determined by the teacher. Some teachers also don't want kids to use general encyclopedias and they say the same thing, "Don't cite the World Book or Britannica." Once again that doesn't make sense to me. If you are using it as a source then you should be citing it. I know this is long answer to a short question but it just pushes my buttons when we and other teachers don't seem to understand the purpose of citation and are giving their students the wrong message about what and why to cite. Tom Kaun On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Kris Fallon <librarychickie@gmail.com>wrote: > Looking for some brief hard cold facts as to why wikapedia is should not be > a "citeable" source for research. Presenting to faculty today and there > are > some big advocates of it who will claim it is just as reliable as > Worldbook. > > Kristina Fallon Tomaino > Robert Morris School, LMS k-8 > South Bound Brook NJ > librarychickie@gmail.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Thomas T. Kaun Teacher Librarian Bessie Chin Library @ Redwood High School 395 Doherty Drive, Larkspur, CA 94939 tomkaun@gmail.com | Library Web site: http://rhslibrary.org | Professional development blog: http://tomlmt2.blogspot.com/ | Library news blog: http://libraryleaves.blogspot.com Read, every day, something no one else is reading. Think, every day, something no one else is thinking. Do, every day, something no one else would be silly enough to do. It is bad for the mind to be always part of unanimity. - Christopher Morley -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------